If your mail is set to conversation view, then you will hear collapsed disclosure triangle when focused on any conversation thread. To prevent hearing this, you need to disable your messages being organized by conversation, in other words, there will be no message threads, and each message will be individual. to disable messages being organized by conversation, go to the menu bar with vo-m or control-f2, and arrow to view. Arrow down to organize by conversation and press the space bar to uncheck it. On Feb 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, barbara jones wrote: Hello As I am reading messages I keep hearing data detector being spoken. Also as I arrow through message I hear collapsed sommethingabout a triangle. All I really want to hear in my list of messages is who it is from, subject and the date and time. Is there a way to change how much is spoken? Thanks Barbara ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1@xxxxxxxxx