[lit-ideas] "You're the Cream in My Coffee": Metaphors Grice Lives By
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- Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 06:06:29 -0400
Are metaphors useful in science. Popper said, "It depends". Lakatos asked:
"On what". "Imre: it's an English expression: you don't need to e
xplicaturise it!".
Grice said that metaphors work as Rylean category mistakes. Take:
"You're the cream in my coffee".
Surely if YOU are the cream in my coffee, it compares to Wittgenstein's
Lion. "If the cream in my coffee could listen to what I say, would it grasp
the implicature?"
In a message dated 6/17/2015 5:24:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Think metaphorically.
ck>
"Thanks. Tried. Can't. -- Dnl."
I think it may *relate* to:
The child is father of the man.
Oddly, McEvoy was quoting what a good metaphorist Wordsworth was ("I
wandered lonely as a---").
Cheers,
Speranza
--- Implicatural Analysis.
i. The child is father of the man.
ii. The child is man's father.
iii. What child?
iv. Any child.
v. What father?
vi. Every father.
vii. Every child is every father of every man.
viii. Every man as in everyman?
ix. &c.
The implicature seemed to be that 'divorce' does not JUST have a 'legal'
usage: cfr. King Lear.
Cheers,
Speranza
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015, 8:36, _carolkir@gmail.com_
(
mailto:carolkir@xxxxxxxxx) wrote:
Think metaphorically.
ck
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:35 AM, Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Carol,
divorced by the male she begat>
O Carol, is this some curveball-crazy Biblical-oedipal type thing?
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015, 4:55, David Ritchie <profdritchie@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Me? I wrote episode two of "Hereabouts" and the rest was silence.
I think maybe the father, son and holy cheese--created they say, by dirty
hay--took the last train for the coast. Either that or everyone's pining
for whatever people pine for in June. Fjords, Chevys and the moon,
presumably.
David Ritchie,
dun playing in
Portland,
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