On a Macintosh it's OPTION-6 (the Option key and the numeral 6). But anybody with a Macintosh already knows that. The symbol Julie created is the German 'double s,' whose name I don't know. This is my try at sending them both (in plain text). $A4243 '...daruber muB mann schweigen' Robert Paul Department of Signs and Wonders ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html