>For the record, while I _know_ (or _believe_) that 'criterion' (or perhaps better 'criteria') is a 'technicism' (as it were) in Witters's scheme of things, it was this below I was having in mind when I brought criteria in:> It is academic commentators who treat it as a 'technicism': afaik Wittgenstein nowhere makes such a claim. The explanation may be that it is not a 'technicism' as far as Wittgenstein is concerned, given the purposes for which he deploys it, but it becomes one in the hands of some commentators. As I understand it, Wittgenstein is not using the notion of 'criterion' in the strict sense in which we might say the positivist 'verificationist theory of meaning' is offered as a strict criterion of "sense" - that is, a definitive (rather than partial and defeasible) yardstick. In Investigations Wittgenstein's sense of 'criterion' is looser: more elastic and flexible, as it is deployed to reflect the sometime elasticity and flexibility of many different uses of language. Dnl Ldn On Friday, 9 May 2014, 17:32, "dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: My last post today! : There's no criterion? There's not ONE criterion, but criteria? --- Rather, Witters ON 'criterion' (or 'criteria' if you must). In a message dated 5/9/2014 12:11:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes, among other interesting things: "This post may help explain why I do not find what W writes about criteria (mentioned in a previous post by JLS) to be at all incompatible with the interpretation I am suggesting." For the record, while I _know_ (or _believe_) that 'criterion' (or perhaps better 'criteria') is a 'technicism' (as it were) in Witters's scheme of things, it was this below I was having in mind when I brought criteria in: McEvoy, under "lw" thread: "To give examples where names name is NOT [emphasis Speranza's] to give an EXPLANATION [emphasis Speranza's] of the naming-relation but merely to illustrate it: what the challenge asks is to provide an explanation so that the relation is captured in language, PERHAPS [emphasis Speranza's] by way of some "theory" or "criterion" by which we can determine that a word is being used as a name and not otherwise." McEvoy does write 'perhaps', which is good. 'Criterion' can be difficult. "Theory" is perhaps a different animal, since a theory introduces what we may call a 'theoretical object' (as I think it's called) -- a theoretical posit. And meaning (or what we mean) is said to be a matter of 'intuition' (as Grice emphasised) -- perhaps even 'analysis' -- rather than 'theory'. For the record it may do to revise the use of 'ostensive definition' as per the Stanford Encyclopedia link -- which concerned the 'meaning' of 'metre'. Cheers, Speranza REFERENCES: Albritton, "On Wittgenstein's use of the Term "Criterion"". Wellman, C. "Wittgenstein's Conception of a Criterion" ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html