[lit-ideas] Re: Thingness and existence (was Movies without Guns)

  • From: Robert Paul <robert.paul@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:09:59 -0700


Mike writes:

'There is no question of any denseness here. One of the points I was trying to insinuate is that the current debate is, among other things, very relevant to the question of whether or not there *are* or are not any *animals simpliciter* (and hence, whether or not there are Truth, Beauty, Justice, etc.). As a self-proclaimed nominalist, you want to claim there are not. I am less sure.'

This is one question. Whether if a tree falls in the forest when nobody’s around, it makes a sound, is another. Let me talk about hurricanes.

In the Beaufort scale, a classification of winds devised by Sir Francis Beaufort, in 1806 (two years after Kant died) there is a progression from ‘calm’ through

light air
light breeze
gentle breeze
moderate breeze
fresh breeze
strong breeze
moderate gale
fresh gale
strong gale
whole gale

to hurricane. Hurricanes were further divided by T. Theodore Fujita and Allen Pearson, in 1971, into five categories, each corresponding to a progressively higher wind velocity and accompanied by a description of the damage to be expected from it. On what I take to be a modern interpretation of the Beaufort scale, one finds such descriptions as:

Calm: less than 1 mph; smoke rises vertically

B1 Light Air: 1-3 mph; direction of wind shown by smoke but not by wind vanes

B2      Light Breeze: 4-7 mph wind felt on face; leaves rustle; wind vanes move

B3 Gentle Breeze: 8-12 mph; leaves and small twigs in motion; wind extends light flag

B5 Fresh Breeze: 19-24 mph small trees in leaf begin to sway; crested wavelets appear on inland waters

B6 Strong Breeze: 25-31 mph large branches move; telegraph wires whistle; umbrellas become unwieldy

B9 Strong Gale: 47-54 mph; slight structural damage occurs (chimney pots, roof slates blown away)

B11     Storm: 64-73 mph widespread damage

B12     Hurricane: winds greater than 74 mph; widespread damage

Are there hurricanes? Do hurricanes exist? (Below, I try to dispense with the words ‘exist,’ ‘existence,’ except where doing so would produce rebarbative expressions.) We’ve just seen the devastation and suffering that a class 4/5 hurricane can cause, so surely only a philosopher would even think to wonder if there were hurricanes. To suggest that it is an open question as to whether there are hurricanes would seem to fly in the face of plain facts, and to display an insensitivity almost beyond belief. But it is a genuine question when we are talking about what there is.

I use the word Word*, e.g., to refer to whatever it is that is thought to persist, subsist, or exist, independently of any natural or ‘social’ phenomena, such that there could be Words* even if there were no words. This is a fairly weak criterion. There might be Grain* if if the crops failed, so I'll add the further one that Grain* predates 'grain,' or is in some unspecified sense timeless.

The Beaufort, and the Fujita-Pearson scales do not pick out certain natural phenomena (a fresh gale, a hurricane) and then describe them. They are not descriptions of, but classifications of natural phenomena. For each category within these classifications there is a sketch of what winds of a certain force will likely cause: unwieldy umbrellas, whistling telegraph wires, toppling chimney pots. Other things may happen too; hats may be blown off, children may be frightened, screen doors may slam.

So, am I somehow giving primacy to what I’ve called natural phenomena, and thereby suggesting that a crude empiricism trumps all? No. One needn’t be driven to conclude that. What I want to say, although it’s hard to articulate, is that there could be the very same natural phenomena (winds of a certain velocity) without their having been divided into light airs, gales, or hurricanes, etc. This should surprise no one. It suggests (to me) though that answer ‘yes and no,’ to ‘Are there hurricanes ?’ isn’t prima facie absurd, for one can well imagine there being what are now classified as hurricane force winds without their ever having been so classified. And this in turn suggests (to me) that there are no such things as Hurricanes*, for we have a natural history of their coming into being via a human act of classification, which classification was of something prior, namely winds.

There are many parallels. Are there coins? Certainly; but before there were coins, there were gold, bronze, copper, and wood for wooden nickels. That something is a coin is determined by stipulation, more or less, against a background of exchanging various things (not Things*) for money. That this piece of gold is a coin worth so-and-so many other coins or a certain fraction of another coin is not a reading of some natural phenomenon but a socially constructed fact. That it is shiny, isn’t, although the classical empiricists (including Russell) worried about the relation of shininess to some supposed underlying stuff, itself neither shiny nor not shiny.

In light of this, I’ll try to respond to at least one of Mike’s worries—that I’m simply dismissing the possibility of there being different kinds, different modes of existence. I think that certain phenomena are hurricanes, rightly so called, only in light of what Beaufort and Fujita have said about them; and to claim, given that, that there might nevertheless be Hurricanes*, strikes me as extremely odd.

If one were to suggest that they could not have made their classifications had they not somehow grasped the essence of Hurricanes*, in privileged moments in which they confronted the Forms directly, well, that is one, fairly implausible, story. It ought to be clear that we can easily imagine different ways of carving velocities at their joints—e.g. scales in which there is no difference between Beaufort’s light breezes and gentle breezes, or no difference between Fujita’s class 2 and class 3 hurricanes. There is no Platonic metric which guides one here.

So, I do reject the notion of Hurricanes*, because it is a contingent fact, and not something that could be known a priori, that winds of a certain velocity comprise a hurricane. God made great winds, but only in translation did he make hurricanes. So now the question, Are there Hurricanes*? seems pointless; for we know, so to speak, how they came to be, and in understanding that there is no room for (and no need for) Hurricanes*

What this does not mean. This doesn’t mean that talk about hurricanes, even if it came to pass that there were no longer winds above 74 mph, and that no one living had ever seen or experienced one, would be senseless, for the concept _hurricane_ would linger (or not) and be invoked in talking about hurricanes on winter nights. In short, talk of hurricanes would still make sense, without the need for the (idea of?) Hurricanes*. I don’t see why Mike wouldn’t accept this, but I suspect he wouldn’t, at least not completely.

Plato thought, at a certain stage in his philosophical career, that there could not be just decisions, e.g., unless there were Justice*, and that it was ‘participation’ in Justice* that made just acts just, a view that’s anticipated in the so-called Socratic dialogues in which Socrates wants a top-down, essentialist definition, or account, of Justice (not an account of Justice*) which would explain why just acts are rightly so called. Attempts to show why this is either wrong-headed or the only path to wisdom have tied philosophers in knots ever since.

I don’t know if in light of Beaufort and Fujita’s efforts hurricanes belong in W3; but whether they do or not, the Popperian assignment of Hurricanes* to it seems at best problematic.

Thanks again to Mike.

Robert Paul
Reed College*
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