Judy: >or you could see the movie... _http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/187136/Enslavement-The-True-Story-of-Fanny-Ke mble/overview_ (http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/187136/Enslavement-The-True-Story-of-Fanny-Kemble/overview) Mmm. Interesting. I should revise dates. One 'movie' I did see recently is the rather boring "Amazing Grace" about this Wilberforce ("A Yorkshire terrier" as he is described in the film). Very little about what I was expecting to see but as my friend told me, "What you expected to see has been seen zillions of times in things like "Roots"). So, if Kemble was London-born, and there was no _slavery_ in London then, I would think her anti-abolitionist attitudes could have originated from the British (or English) background. "Amazing Grace" depicts the Brits of the 19th century as pretty confident that slavery was (_contra_ Aristotle, or _pace_ Aristotle) a big abomination. Weren't they always airing _that_ as their main criticisms to what they thought was "American" backward views on slavery? For what it was worth (a lot) In Argentina, slavery, was officially abolished in 1913. I know because that is one of the key questions in any history quizz of Argentina worth its name. Borges has some recollections of 'slave-families' in Buenos Aires. He would remember that former slave families had (as in the USA) adopted the 'family name' of their holders. This, to patrician Borges, was a bit of a puzzle, because it would mean that a 'family surname' would _not_ necessarily indicate 'the breed' or 'nobility'. Since there are no lead mines in Buenos Aires (or cotton fields) I believe the slaves's main job was to bathe themselves (and the laundry) in the (rather dirty then, I believe) waters of the warm River Plate. Only one historian I know, of Yale, has attempted the connection between the TANGO and Buenos Aires slavery. The book is called: "Tango: The Art History of Love" by R. Thompson, New York: Pantheon which relies, inter alia, on: "The Afro-Argentines of Buenos Aires, 1800-1900", by G. Andrews. Along with Spanish-speaking titles: "Cultura negra en el cono sur", by Alejandro Frigerio. and "Cosas de negros" by Vicente Rosas. Cheers, JL ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com