[lit-ideas] Re: The United Gun Guys of America

  • From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 15:30:01 -0700


Here's another interesting article: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-04-24/u-k-gun-curbs-mean-more-violence-yet-fewer-deaths-than-in-u-s- It includes the following paragraph: "According to the Sydney-based Institute for Economics and Peace, the U.K. had 933 violent crimes per 100,000 people in 2012, down from 1,255 in 2003. In the U.S., the figure for 2010 was 399 violent crimes per 100,000 people. Still, while the U.S. violent-crime rate is less than half Britain’s, its homicide rate between 2003 and 2011 was almost four times as high."

There is a lot more violent crime in the UK but fewer homicides. Perhaps a lot of bad guys that would be walking around in the UK with guns and occasionally killing people are now walking around with knives, clubs or small gangs and since all the innocent civilians over there (with few exceptions) are unarmed . . . they provide a great feast of victims -- so why kill them and draw the attention of the bobbies when you can rap them on the head with a steel pipe and take whatever you want -- and with so much of that going on the chance of being cot is way lower than if they murdered someone

We are still (in the US) a nation of Emersonian self-reliant people and would rather, many (if not most) of us, defend ourselves than hire a huge expensive bureaucracy to control us so that we don't kill to many of each other. The idea of letting ourselves be robbed or letting someone we love be raped in order to reduce the homicide rate wouldn't set very well with a lot of us.

And I always wonder about some of these statistics. If you shoot a bad guy who has broken into your house with the intent to do you or a loved one bodily harm, does that count as a violent gun-related death? Probably, but I'm not sure.

Lawrence


On 10/2/2015 1:15 PM, Mike Geary wrote:


What a sad little country we are. What is it that supposedly we value in our gun "rights"? Obviously not life. Are we all hoping that one day we will have a chance at shooting the bastards, to know the relief in blowing the sonsofbitches away? During the Vietnam war I was working (in Memphis, not Vietnam) with a guy who would talk about joining the Army so that he could get over there and mow those commie gooks down. He really, truly wanted to kill, to destroy everything that he didn't understand, that he saw as hostile to his own very small world.
I quit that job and I have no idea if he ever made it to Vietnam ( but 3 million Vietnamese were killed, so I doubt they needed his help), but on learning of massacres like this one today in Oregon, I wonder just how many people out there are cleaning their rifles everyday aching to mow the bastards down.

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