>When I was taught English grammar at the nursery by my Nottinghamshire nanny, Miss Craw, of happy memory, I >was held to what were presented as the highest standards: 'between >you and I' is what she called a 'mistake'. Now, I'm confused. How come (if you excuse me the Germanism) Robert Paul needed to be _trained_ in the English language. What was wrong with R. Paul's father-tongue or mother-tongue. Why engage the services of Miss Craw? I was never _taught_ grammar, and would _never_ say "between you and I" ('between' governs dative). Miss Craw's conception of a 'mistake' seems pretty narrow, too. It's obvious that the _logical form_ of "between you and I" _is_ 'between you and I'. It's just a dialectical (alla Hegel) choice which expression you use. I don't know where Miss Craw hailed from, but in many shires of the English speaking-world, they say things, like "it's me", which is supposed to be _NOT_ a mistake, and things like "Me and my girl were meant for each other". If you start calling these _mistakes_ you end up realizing perhaps it was a _mistake_ that people found Miss Craw worth hiring. J. L. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com