In a message dated 5/15/2014 8:59:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: O’Callaghan tells us French knights were promised land in Spain if they would drive the Muslims from it – not land the Spanish were engaged in fighting for but other land, land the Muslims held and was not being immediately contested by the Spanish. I read a couple of books 10 or 15 years ago on the Crusades and recall the comment that one of the Popes encouraged the Franks to go off and free Jerusalem in order to get them out of Europe where they kept stirring things up. O’Callaghan doesn’t give us quite that picture of them during Urban’s time. It would then, perhaps, be good to revise, 'nation by nation', as it were, how different places 'conceived' of the 'idea', however, false -- all ultimately springing from the 'decrees' or 'promises' by Popes Alexander I and Urban II (mentioned elsewhere by L. Helm). This below about the "Italian" -- or rather "Lombard" version -- (first sung by Tasso), which will eventually turn out to be the main topic of an opera by Verdi years later! Oh Signore, dal tetto natìo, ci chiamasti con santa promessa; noi siam corsi all'invito di un pio (1) giubilando per, l'aspro sentier. Ma la fronte avvilita e dimessa hanno i servi già baldi e valenti deh! non far che ludibrio alle genti siano Cristo, i tuoi figli guerrieri Oh fresche aure. volanti sui vaghi ruscelletti dei prati lombardi ! Fonti eterne ! Purissimi laghi! Oh vigneti indorati di sole Dono infausto, crudele è la mente che vi pinge sì veri agli sguardi ed al labbro più dura e cocente fa la sabbia di un arido suol! Fa la sabbia - fa la sabbia di un arido suol! D'un arido suol - d'un arido suol! http://www.gutenberg.org/files/8171/8171-h/8171-h.htm "It seems to have been the fate of Grossi as a poet to achieve fashion, and not fame; and his great poem in fifteen cantos, called "I Lombardi alla Prima Crociata", which made so great a noise in its day, was eclipsed in reputation by his subsequent novel of "Marco Visconti". Since the "Gerusalemma" of Tasso, it is said that no poem has made so great a sensation in Italy as "I Lombardi", in which the theme treated by the elder poet is celebrated according to the aesthetics of the Romantic School." Cheers, Speranza References: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_operas_set_in_the_Crusades ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html