That was not my experience. I had tried several things before Adaware, including manually uninstalling Virtual Bouncer and many other malicious programs from my C drive. At one point in the last week my system exploded into a nonstop cascade of popups. Every few seconds I was getting a popup that told me to clean my registry, that I needed their program to open up such and such file, that I performed an illegal operation and would be shut down. When I tried to log on, a popup came up telling me I had C++ Runtime and would be shut down. I assumed it was the redirect host program that was bringing them in that wouldn't allow itself to be deleted. I was all but ready to scrap this otherwise perfectly functioning workhorse, or reinstall windows, effectively the same thing minus the expense. I use McAfee antivirus, so I bought their antispyware and it was utterly useless. Then I learned about lavasoft.com and, not convinced anything would solve the problem, I tried their free trial. It came up with 61 critical objects, 28 of which were in the registry. It then deleted all but the 7 redirect hosts, which I blocked thru the McAfee firewall by entering the IP address. I bought the program, and it finished the job and they are all gone now. Apart from a fair amount of annoyance, no real damage was done, but it's not an experience I want to repeat. Regarding normal, if you mean about computers, I define it as not having all this crap in my computer. Andy Amago > [Original Message] > From: <JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 2/20/05 10:10:04 PM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Status Post Programoplasty > > I tried Adaware a while back. It wanted me to pick and choose the files to > delete. I let it make my decisions for me, as I was unfamiliar with some of > them. My printer ceased completely and entirely to function. > > Also, please define "normal". I've always searched for it. > > Julie Krueger > ========Original Message======== > Subj: [lit-ideas] Status Post Programoplasty Date: 2/20/05 6:04:29 P.M. > Central Standard Time From: _aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > (mailto:aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) , > _THEORIA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:THEORIA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent on: > > First of all, thanks to everyone for your comment and suggestions. They > were much appreciated. I have to say, my battle with this thing wasn't pretty, > but I came out on top. > Briefly, computers are a huge part of my life, but I don't like the > technical aspect of them. Like with a car, I turn the key, it runs, and that's what > I want to know about cars. Likewise with computers; I had a virus program, I > was protected, right? Hardly. Needless to say, it turns out my computer > was infected with malware, spyware, adware, and data miners. I had a total of > over 60 critical objects on my system and never even knew it, including 7 > redirect host files. Over the years they sneaked in until I had a critical > mass that all but shut me down. I was ready to scrap my otherwise perfectly > fine, if not perfectly new, computer (tipping my hat to Lance, something I did > *not* want to do, on principle as much as anything else) when a very > computer-knowledgeable friend told me about a terrific program called Adaware > (lavasoft.com). Adaware is not a virus program but goes into the registry and C > drive and cleans out unwanted programs. It's also a world class firewa > ll. I used it and my computer is now as clean as the day I bought it. > > Thanks again for all your suggestions and comments. It feels sooo good to > be back to normal. > > > Andy Amago > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > r > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html