**Headed out to relatives (somewhat) near you in Louisburg, KS for turkey day, next month. Would like to have beaten shrub jr. by then -- enjoy mid-west company and holiday celebrations. Family and politics will make it interesting... TC, /Steve Cameron, NJ Eternitytime1@xxxxxxx wrote: > Hi, Oh, and Steve, <g>, I KNOW your wife sent that and really meant > NEO-CON Republican, right? <g> Those of us who espoused the > 'pro-small business, fiscal conservativism, anti-big-business, little > government, etc.' type of Republicanism are a tad different--and give > thanks every day for such things... (okay okay...we are either the > Old Republican or the New Democrat <g>) > > I will preface this with saying that while I have, in the past, > allowed myself to enjoy Mother Jones <g>, I have also found it > definitely in line with a particular partisian point of view. I find > it very intriguing that they have, in a sense, decided to interview > these folk. <g> (in other words, just by virtue of the fact that it > is in Mother Jones I would be unable to use it with certain > people...<wry look>...no matter WHO they interviewed.) > > I think John M ought to resend one of his posts (I reread it again > today...) The one where he read something in The Nation. It really > is quite good... > > Hopefully heading home soon, Marlena in Missouri > > > http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004/10/10_200. html > > Conversation with a Conservative: Clyde Prestowitz > > In the first of four conversations between Mother Jones and prominent > conservatives who've become Bush critics, Reagan administration > veteran Clyde Prestowitz explains that four years of Republican rule > have put the country on the wrong track. > > October 6, 2004 > > I?m Clyde Prestowitz. I was a counselor to the Secretary of Commerce > in the first Reagan administration. I?m author of the book "Rogue > Nation: American Unilateralism and the Failure of Good Intentions." > I'm an elder in the Presbyterian church. I'm a conservative, a > registered Republican, and an economist. > > I grew up in a rock-ribbed Republican family. Republicanism kind of > came in the DNA. In fact, I can remember my father saying that he'd > vote for a dead horse if it was a Republican. > > I've always had a certain idea of the United States. And it was the > idea of a country that led by example, that was powerful but didn't > abuse its power, that was rich but caring, and that was leading the > world into a better place. > > Increasingly it seems like the Republican party I knew, that I > learned about at my father and mother's knees, is leaving and has > gone in a different direction. If you look at the Bush > administration, it has given us red ink in our federal budget > deficits as far as the eye can see. It has given us big government, > not small government. The federal government is now spending more as > a percent of our total GDP than any other government. The Patriot Act > has been a restriction of individual rights. The states have been > given unfunded mandates from the federal government, which most > conservatives see as completely abhorrent. And we?re engaged in a war > in Iraq against a country that didn?t pose a threat to us. We?re > setting as an objective in that war that we're going to democratize > not only Iraq but the whole Middle East. This is exactly the kind of > slaying of dragons, messianic foreign adventure that traditional > conservatives have always been opposed to. And I'm frustrated by the > fact that these policies are being sold as conservative. > > A lot of people automatically identify 'conservative' with 'good,' so > if you sell this tax cut as a conservative tax cut, then it must be a > good tax cut. Well, it's not, and don't confuse the subject by > calling it conservative. > > The neo-conservative, radical conservative opposition to things like > the Kyoto agreement, or to other measures to protect the environment, > is frequently based on either a willful ignoring of evidence and > facts, or a distortion of those. It seems to me that the essence of > conservatism is not being guided by what you wish was the case, or > what you hope was the case, but looking at the hard, cold facts. What > is science telling us? The icebergs are melting. The polar ice caps > are going away. The glaciers in the mountains are disappearing. Why > is that happening? What are the facts? And once you?ve looked at the > facts, then it seems to me that only a fool would not respond in some > way to protect the environment. > > Also, typically, traditional conservatives have a sense of the need > to support the welfare of the society. Widening gaps between rich and > poor are things that concern traditional conservatives. The Bush > administration is not conservative, because on almost every principle > of traditional conservatism, the Bush administration is someplace > else. > > The administration's use of the word conservative to describe itself > is Orwellian, because it's exactly the opposite of what the term > means. > > The administration is not conservative, it's radical. But it uses the > term "conservative" to mask what it truly is. > > The notion of going to war on the basis of first strike, on the basis > of pre-emption, is contrary to American doctrine through generations > of presidents and generations of conservative Republican presidents. > > President Eisenhower, President Nixon, President Ford, President > Reagan -- all conservative Republicans -- all embraced the notion of > "no first strike." But now, this administration has turned that > doctrine on its head to say, "OK, now we're going to go for first > strike." That's a radical proposition. > > I think that we are less safe today than we were three or four years > ago. And I'll tell you something else: I have recently had > discussions with several former national security advisors -- people > who were national security officials in former Republican > administrations -- who have told me they feel the same way. They fear > that the administration's policies are further endangering and > undermining the security of the United States. > > I feel very strongly right now that our country is on the wrong track > domestically. I think it's on the very wrong track internationally. > As a patriot, as a conservative, as a Republican, it's important to > try to change it. > > This interview was recorded on September 8, 2004, as part of Mother > Jones? State of the Union series. > > _____________________________________________________ Marlena Boggs > mboggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Adults Services Specialist 816-836-5200 > Mid-Continent Public Library http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To > change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html