[lit-ideas] Re: Simone Weil (Was: Kataphatic, Negative and Apophatic Theo...

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  • Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 13:06:32 EDT

With Simone I think a lot of it is a matter of intuiting.
 
Julie Krueger
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Oh it's not a matter of liking these quotes.   I don't know if I like them.
Hell, I might like them a lot if I could figure  out what in the heck she's
talking about.  When I read them I think  "colourless green ideas sleep
furiously".  I mean, even Cioran makes  more sense to me and he goes on about
Fate as a confining prison is really  only a mask for a more
supreme force that works to annihilate us.  Go  figure that one out.

Erin
Toronto

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> The thing about Gravity and Grace is  that it is her journaling, published
> posthumously.  If I can figure  out where my copy is I'll post some quotes
I
> liked a little better  than those you chose <g>.
>
> Julie Krueger
>
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> Kataphatic, Negative and Apophatic   Theology)  Date: 8/6/2004 10:53:38 AM
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> Speaking of Simone Weil, I read Gravity and   Grace.  It was one of those
> books I read where, for the most part,  I  didn't have even the slightest
clue
> what was going on.   For example,  here are some random aphorisms.  Can
anyone
>  tell me what any of these  mean?
>
>
> Erin
>  Toronto
>
>
> "All the natural movements of the  soul are  controlled by laws of gravity
> analogous to those of physical   gravity.  Grace is the only exception."
>
> "Gravity.   Generally,  what we expect of others depends on the effect of
>  gravity upon ourselves,  what we receive from them depends on the  effect
of
> gravity upon them.   Sometimes, (by chance) the  two coincide, often they
do
> not."
>
> "Lear, a   tragedy of gravity.  Everything we call base is a phenomenon  due
to
> gravity.  Moreover, the world baseness is an indication  of this  fact."
>
> "To come down by a movement in which  gravity plays no part...  Gravity
makes
> things come down, wings  make them rise:  What wings raised  to the second
> power can  make things come down without weight?"
>
> "To  lower oneself  is to rise in the domain of moral gravity.  Moral
gravity
> makes  us fall towards the heights."
>
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> From: "Austin Meredith" <Kouroo@xxxxxxxxx>
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> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004  11:14  AM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Kataphatic, Negative and  Apophatic  Theology
>
>
> >
> > >What  about Simone Weil?  She surely  embraced an aspect of   negative
> > >theology as part of her  paradox.
>  >
> > In Negative Theology the meaning of a locution such as   "the worship of
> God"
> > is negative in that it contains  nothing whatever  that is positive. It
> > contains no assertion  whatever as to the existence  or reality or
> > characteristics of  God. It consisting totally and  exclusively in a
> >  thorough-going refusal to participate in any idolatry  -- that is,  in
any
> > worship of anything that is not God. For instance,   when a "religious"
> > person praises the power of God, as in the hymn  "A  Mighty Fortress Is
Our
> > God," a practitioner of Negative  Theology  responds: "You are
worshiping,
> > not God, but  power. You are an idolator,  and not superior to any other
> >  idolator."
> >
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