[lit-ideas] Re: Ronald Reagan talks about W. Bush...

I've always prided myself on being an inveterate Reagan hater though all about me people sing praises about the Great Communicator. That's not to say that I don't recognize his election as being a truly great day for the aspirations of rich, white men, or that his 8 years in office were a stunning achievement of economic flourishing for the already wealthy and the most damaging to the commonweal since Herbert Hoover proclaimed: "In America today, we are nearer a final triumph over poverty than is any other land." Oops.
In other words, it's easy to see without looking too far that I harbor no warm fuzzies for Ronnie, nevertheless, when I read the "diary" entry, I said to myself: "Ronnie didn't write that." Why would I think that, you ask. Because the man was never honest enough with himself to have those emotions. And besides what would Ronnie have known about a "real" job.
Still I fondly remember under Ronnie our glorious invasion of Grenada, our stalwart support of the Death Squads of El Salvador, our generosity in selling weapons to Iran to support the Contras of Nicaragua in subterfuge of Congressional mandate. I sing of our brave mining of the harbor of Managua, and of our principled support of the Apartheid government of South Africa. Though for many these memories of Ronnie apparently remain buried with his remains, I steadfastly remind the world. 

Mike Geary
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The following is from Snopes.com
in reference to this alleged Diary.

Thanks to my friend Michael Pickel for finding this reference.


Sorry, Andreas.


Yrs,

Edward


http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/kinsley.asp

Dear Diary
Claim: A 1986 diary entry by President Ronald Reagan described George W. Bush as a "shiftless ne'er-do-well." 

Status:   False.

Example:   [Collected via e-mail, August 2007]
A friend forwarded the following quote to me. I am skeptical that Ronald Reagan actually wrote it.
"A moment I've been dreading. George brought his ne're-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I'll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they'll hire him as a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work." 

-- Ronald Reagan in his recently published diaries, May 17, 1986.

Origins:   It is often the case that a piece of satire hits so
close to home (i.e., seemingly confirms something that people believe to be true) that it becomes difficult to distinguish from reality - especially when an excerpt is presented outside of its satirical context.
Such is the case with the putative quote from President Ronald Reagan's diaries reproduced above. Although some critics of the current president might find a delicious irony in the Republican icon's once having described a young George W. Bush (who is the son of Reagan's Vice President, George H.W. Bush) as a "ne'er-do-well," they'd be disappointed to learn that the quote is an out-of-context excerpt from a tongue-in-cheek article.
In June 2007, political columnist Michael Kinsley penned an article for The New Republic after a colleague alerted him to the fact that his name appeared in the recently-published book The Reagan Diaries, a compilation of selected diary entries the 40th president made while in office. Kinsley ruminated about why President Reagan might have had occasion to mention his name in a diary entry and offered several flight-of-fancy suggestions: But I was more interested in the me angle, frankly. And it was a puzzle. What on earth could Reagan have written? I indulged my imagination, and my ego: "January 22, 1983. Mommie [Nancy] says that Kinsley's column this week in The New Republic undermines the entire philosophical basis of my administration. O dear O dear, I had better not read it."
Or: "October 6, 1987. Why does Kinsley keep picking on me? He is the only thing standing between me and the total destruction of the welfare state. But, ha: I will destroy him - destroy him utterly - or my name's not ... not ... not ... Say, they had 'State Fair' on TV last night. What a wholesome, clean-cut young man that Pat Boone is."
Or: "May 17, 1986. A moment I've been dreading. George brought his ne'er-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I'll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they'll hire him as a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work." As Kinsley ultimately discovered, the reference to him that appeared in Reagan's diaries was both mundane and erroneous: In the case of The Reagan Diaries, however, I'd been tipped off. And, sure enough, there I was in the index and on page 400, which describes the events of Friday, March 21, 1986, a busy day for Reagan. He learns that Panama will not take in the unwanted dictator of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos. He meets with our ambassador to Russia to talk about Gorbachev. Javier Perez de Cuellar, secretary-general of the United Nations, drops by in the afternoon, and Billy Graham comes over for dinner. Reagan finishes writing his speech for the annual Gridiron dinner. He has an interview with New York Times reporters. And at midday: "had off-the-record lunch with Meg Greenfield, David Brinkley, and editor of New Republic (Michael Kinsley)."
Well, here is the problem: This whole thing never happened. Or, if it did happen, I was not there. Or, if I was there, it had slipped my mind. I had no memory of having lunch with President Reagan in the White House or anywhere else. And it's not the kind of thing you forget, is it?
Upon further investigation, [I learned that] an editor at HarperCollins had slipped in my name. He or she - and Reagan, too - apparently were unaware of tnr's all-chiefs-and-no-Indians tradition of ladling out titles instead of money. Almost everyone at tnr is an "editor" of some kind. Reagan, it seems, actually had lunch with Charles Krauthammer. 
Last updated:   20 August 2007

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"Andreas Ramos" <andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx> 8/23/2007 8:22 PM >>>

From the REAGAN DIARIES (entry May 17, 1986):

"A moment I've been dreading. George brought his  ne're-do-well son around
this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one  who
lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking
shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real
job. Maybe I'll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they'll
hire him as  a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work."

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