[lit-ideas] Re: Right to Life, Right to Die

  • From: Judy Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 22:24:50 +0100

Hello Veronica

He is dying now.  I may have seen more of his recent appearances than
you; someone who isn't at all malign compared his riding back from the
hospital in the Popemobile as like El Cid's death charge. I saw and
heard rather more this evening of his attempt to speak to the crowds
at Easter.

His Secretary -- is that the term? -- has announced that he is dying.


 I heard that he appointed some number of new bishops or cardinals or
VC> something.  This is the silliest thing I have heard today.  Anyone who has
VC> ever been really sick, even from something like the flu, knows that in that
VC> condition, one doesn't care about anything. Whoever is in control there is
VC> doing this.

I have had suspicions like that for a few days now.

VC> I myself don't much care what they do, as this Pope has already packed the
VC> College of Cardinals to insure that his successor will be as reactionary as
VC> he is.

I didn't know that, but it doesn't surprise me.  The tributes being
paid to the Pope by everybody everywhere are a little too effusive for
my taste, really there is no need to declare him one of the greatest
Popes (and so on).

Judy

Friday, April 1, 2005, 8:56:44 PM, Veronica Caley wrote:

VC> I think you were right yesterday Judy.  I think the Pope is going to die
VC> now.  I heard that he appointed some number of new bishops or cardinals or
VC> something.  This is the silliest thing I have heard today.  Anyone who has
VC> ever been really sick, even from something like the flu, knows that in that
VC> condition, one doesn't care about anything. Whoever is in control there is
VC> doing this.

VC> I myself don't much care what they do, as this Pope has already packed the
VC> College of Cardinals to insure that his successor will be as reactionary as
VC> he is.  

VC> Veronica


>> [Original Message]
>> From: Judy Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: 3/31/2005 5:24:27 PM
>> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Right to Life, Right to Die
>>
>> Thursday, March 31, 2005, 9:51:00 PM, Veronica Caley wrote:
>>
>> VC> Judy:<
>> VC> I'd say he's dying, but they
>> VC> aren't allowed to say anything like that. I just hope he isn't the
>> VC> victim of infighting in the Vatican.>
>>
>> VC> I am not ready to write off this Pope.  He has a will of iron,
VC> regardless
>> VC> of the issue, including his determined will to live as long as
VC> possible.
>>
>> I agree.  But there's bad news of his health this evening, and an
>> unconfirmed report he's been given the last rites.  And he really was
>> very ill before this happened.
>>
>>
>> VC>   I
>> VC> am distressed by the Vatican condemnation of the removal of Schiavo's
>> VC> feeding tube.  Some time ago the Vatican ruled that there is not
VC> always an
>> VC> obligation to keep life support in place.
>>
>>
>> I didn't know they'd ruled that.
>>
>> VC>  In the case of Schiavo, it is
>> VC> life support as she was never expected to wake up.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>> VC>  Fifteen years is more
>> VC> time to wait than I think is advisable, from a societal point of view.
>>
>> I don't want to look at this from a "societal point of view".
>>
>>
>> VC>  In
>> VC> wish the poor woman peace.  And sorrow not over her death, but over
VC> the
>> VC> videos of her in her condition spread around the world.  It seems to
VC> me to
>> VC> be cruel and tasteless.
>>
>> I agree, it is appalling
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
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