Simon Ward wrote: "... political leadership using such fundamentalists." I agree with Simon that Christian fundamentalists have been manipulated for the purposes of advancing political agendas that do not belong to them. This is an extremely important point as 2008 approaches. The Bush election team was able to convince these Christians to vote for Bush when many would have been inclined to not vote at all, since Bush is hardly a fundamentalist. The Rove strategy of focusing on the base has failed with these Christians because they are not naturally inclined to vote, and certainly not for someone who is as religiously vague as Bush. These fundamentalists justifiably feel manipulated and are insisting that if the Republicans want their vote, it will have to be for someone who is explicitly committed to their concerns. See here the recent comments by Dobson on whether Fred Thompson has been explicit enough in his faith to satisfy fundamentalists. Christian fundamentalists do not want another version of Bush. Sincerely, Phil Enns ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html