[lit-ideas] Popper on Horses

  • From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
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  • Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:59:38 EDT

 
 
In a message dated 10/12/2004 8:57:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
He  favours the biological approach to understanding
selves as an upshot of the  evolutionary usefulness of 'individuation' - an
approach he finds in Locke.  Individuation gives organisms a footing for
self-defence and attack, and a  basis for coordination of activities. He
believes only humans have true  'selfhood' and that we are not born selves but
become selves through our  acquisition of language, self-consciousness and our
mental interaction with  World 3.



---- This  reminds me of something I was reading in "The Conquest of the 
River Plate", by  R. B. Cunninghame-Graham:
 
"Throughout the conquest numerous references appear to the fear the Indians  
had of horses, and not unnaturally, for they were animals unknown to them. One 
 of the most touching of these occurred upon this expedition, and only such a 
man  as Nunez would have chronicled it. 'The Indians,' he says, 'had a great 
terror  of the horses, and begged the Governor (Nunez) to speak to them and 
ask them not  to be angry*, and so that they should be contented brought them 
aboundant food.'  ("Tenian muy gran terror de los caballos, y rogaban al 
Governador que los dixese  a los caballos que no se enojasen y por los tener 
contentos los traian de  comer") (p. 119).
 
Strictly, to beg the Governor to ask the horses not to be angry possibly  
does not _presuppose_ (on the part of the begger) that the begger _thinks_ a  
horse has selfhood or consciousness. Indeed, it is possible for a horse to  
_understand_ the implicature ("Calm down, animal"), even if not what is 
strictly  
said ("the dictum"), or it is?
 
Cheers,
 
JL


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