We have elaborated on this elsewhere, due to the important insights by L. J. Kramer. We think 'luck' has nothing to do with anything and that Williams was wrong! JLS ---- In a message dated 5/18/2010 11:55:32 P.M, atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Many thanks to RP for this link. I've done a quick read of the article and find it smack on. I've printed it so that I read it at leisure and more carefully. Mike Geary Memphis ----- Original Message ----- From: _Robert Paul_ (mailto:rpaul@xxxxxxxx) To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent: 5/17/2010 9:37:23 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: When Did You Last See Your Father? Ursula wrote You sure you don't want to rethink that? If democracy blossoms in Iraq, will BabyBush have done the morally right thing? in reply to Mike who had written Outcome is the only thing that makes something morally wrong [or right?]. I suggest for summer reading _http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-luck/_ (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-luck/) Robert Paul