[lit-ideas] Re: Nutcase Control (law) [revised]

  • From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:30:55 -0500

LH:
PA:  You expect me to believe that the intruder broke into your client's house, 
stole the gun, and then broke in a second time only to have that same gun 
wrestled away from him by the client?

DA:  Yes.  What a strange world we live in.

PA:  Strange, ideed.  Your client owes us $50,000.  Pay up, please.  And advise 
you client that the next time it'll $50,000 plus 5 years in prison.





Mike Geary
Memphis




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lawrence Helm 
  To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 1:52 PM
  Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Nutcase Control (law)



  What a boon your $50,000 idea would be for lawyers.  

  A pretrial discussion

  PA (Prosecuting Attorney): Did your client shoot the intruder?

  DA (Defense Attorney) Yes, he admits that.  He wrestled the gun away from the 
intruder and it went off accidentally.

  PA:  Records show that the gun was registered to your client.

  DA:  Yes, that's true.  The intruder had such an easy time of it when he 
broke into my client's house previously, that he obviously came back.


  PA:  Do you realize that variations on this defense have been used a number 
of times?

  DA:  Yes.  Interesting, isn't it?

  PA:  Do you expect the jury to believe your client?

  DA:  Of course.  Would you rather they believed the armed intruder to be in 
the right?  Shame on you.  My client is an innocent victim attempting, while in 
an unarmed state, to defend himself against an armed intruder.  I have no doubt 
but that the jury will find in my client's favor.  In fact previous such trials 
should teach you not to bring such frivolous law suits to trial.  

  PA:  I was prepared to give your client a break, drop the murder charge, and 
reduce the fine to $10,000.

  DA:  Forget it.  See you in court.


  Lawrence


  ------------Original Message------------
  From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Date: Sat, Apr-21-2007 11:15 AM
  Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Nutcase Control (law)
  >>Just making laws apparently doesn't get them automatically complied with.  
Mike, did you know this? <<

  Duh...


  >>You're going to have to go well beyond just making your gun law to make 
yourself perfectly safe from guns.<<

  $50,000 per weapon will do the trick, I think.  Prison for the 2nd offense.


  >>maybe Mike & his buddies can forgo their plans to organize all the 
Pacifist, Anti-Gun, LeftWingers into a Paramilitary force and conduct house to 
house searches in San Jacinto to take away all our guns.<<


  Relax, there won't be any need for house to house searches.  As long as 
you're not caught out in public with your gun, the authorities won't know you 
own one.  You'll never be able to use it, it's true, but that's the price of 
living in a civilized state.  It's a policy of don't use, don't lose.  Your 
guns will be your little secret.

  Mike Geary
  Memphis


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Lawrence Helm 
    To: Lit-Ideas 
    Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 10:21 AM
    Subject: [lit-ideas] Nutcase Control (law)



    Well looky here.  There's already a Federal Law that would have prevented 
Cho getting his guns legally -- had it been complied with: 
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/21/us/21guns.html?em&ex=1177300800&en=fb403a48ef158b97&ei=5087%0A

    The Virginia Law isn't quite up to Federal Standards, but Mr. Bonnie, the 
Director of the University of Virginia Institute on Law, Psychiatry and Public 
Policy says "We are going to fix this."  But note that as defective as the 
Virginia law is, Virginia is the leading state for reporting nutcases to the 
local police.    
    Apparently the current Federal procedure is for someone privy to the 
psychiatric health of an individual to notify local police.  The article goes 
on to say Carolyn McCarthy, Democrat of New York, has been pushing a bill to 
require states to automate their criminal history records so computer databases 
used to conduct background checks on gun buyers are more complete."  Well done 
Carolyn McCarthy!

    Whew!  If more states comply with the Federal Law and Carolyn McCarthy's 
bill gets passed
    Lawrence

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