[lit-ideas] Re: Men are NOT useless
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:34:01 -0500
> [Original Message]
> From: Paul Stone <pas@xxxxxxxx>
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> Date: 12/20/2005 4:43:53 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Men are NOT useless
>
>
> >I guess there aren't too many ways to interpret a statement that the Y
> >AC: chromosome is becoming extinct, even if it's in astronomical time,
around
> >the time dinosaurs will return to earth. Rest assured, Paul, men are NOT
> >useless. Men are wonderful, necessary, the world couldn't live without
> >them. Women couldn't live without them either. Those last two sentences
> >is what Maureen is saying (I only heard her, I didn't read the book).
She
> >isn't against men. She isn't against women either. She thinks the
women's
> >movement failed. She's just analyzing the new situation the way she sees
> >it. The statements about Bush stand, but it does make me want to go to
the
> >library and see if they have the book. If they do, maybe I'll read it.
> >But trust me, Paul, you guys are wonderful. And trust me also, Maureen
> >would agree.
>
> I just think she needs to take her tongue OUT of its permanent fixture in
> her lovely soft cheek.
I couldn't stand her for years for the pointless, unfounded attacks she did
on Clinton. I called her Moron Dowd. But, I also didn't like William
Safire even more. People cut Safire more slack than they cut Maureen.
It's tough being profound on a bi-weekly basis. She has to grate or she'd
out of a job. Also, the thing about the Y chromosome was an off hand
remark.
A lot of the times she talks, it doesn't SEEM like
> she's joking even though I suspect she might be trying to. Her writing
> ranges [judging from the numerous articles I've read in the past 10
years]
> from inane to mildly astute to ridiculous forecasting. I don't much like
> most of her ideas.
>
> As for the feminization of society... it's already happened. Its effects
> might even have more inertia than 'global warming',
Not necessarily a bad thing. Men are brutalized in this and all societies.
The more brutalized men are, the more restricted the society, case in
point, the Islamist societies; it doesn't get more macho or more restricted
than that. Men are raised to play a role, just like women. Playing a role
means the real person underneath isn't good enough. We live in a world
where people aren't good enough the way they are. Toughen up! Be a man!
Meaning, don't cry, etc.
but whatever. I think
> men can still be men without acting like macho jackasses.
Absolutely. The goal of the original feminists, as I understand it, was
that men could be men without acting like macho jackasses. That's dead and
buried. Now even women are playing cuddly bunny with an epidemic of
implants. Result: everybody loses themselves in this maze of masks.
The jackass part
> is only PART of who we are.
Yin/Yang is I believe the idea.
Irene
>
> Proudly Partly Eeyore
> Pooh-Pooh Corner, Ontario
>
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