[lit-ideas] Re: "In Philosophical Investigations"

  • From: "Walter C. Okshevsky" <wokshevs@xxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:06:47 -0230

Which leads some of us to wonder how many of the philosophical "greats" would be
granted tenure and/or promotion these days. (Merely an historical wonder, of
course.) 

The *Tractatus* as a doctoral dissertation?? Please ....

Walter O.


Quoting Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx>:

> I thank JL for providing more Gricean genealogy as regards who 
> influenced whom back when nobody understood anybody else and 
> philosophical disputes were settled by assigning people to vaguely 
> bounded categories and without further ado assessing their arguments in 
> light the supposed essential properties such membership bestowed on them.
> 
> -----------------------
> 
> In fairness to Grice, he would often quote Witters without even crediting.
> 
> Notably in his 1991 book, where he quotes verbatim, "No psychological 
> concepts  without the behaviour that manifests it" -- which is also straight
> from 
>  "Philosophical Investigations". 
> 
> -----------------------
> 
> Could this possibly be a an attempt at a 'verbatim' rendering of §580? (An
> 'inner process' stands in need of outward criteria.) 
> 
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>  
> Grice did NOT think that 'context' was important. "If it were, then  
> philosophy would not exist. The point of philosophising is that what we do
> say  
> applies in ANY context" (Grice, "The general theory of context", in the Grice
>  
> Collection, paper delivered at Reed).
>  
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> 
> Alas, so much the worse for Grice. This explains why he could not understand
> §§122, 123 (in Hacker and  Schulte's reworking of the former Part II).
> 
> I'm unfamiliar with the Grice Collection, but if he actually said this, or
> something close to it, in a lecture at Reed (he gave, I think, three, on
> different occasions in the early 1980's), I would not have heard it, for by
> then Grice was so stricken with emphysema that he wheezed and coughed
> continually??often doubled over, face on the table, recovering from a
> particularly violent fit??that I could make out very little of what he said.
> It did not help that he sat at a table and looked down at the paper he was
> reading.  
> 
> There were comments from the audience after the papers, but the more
> interesting discussions took place later, over drinks.
> 
> Robert Paul
> 
> 
> 
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