[lit-ideas] Re: Grice's Objection

  • From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:33:47 -0400 (EDT)

Obbles, rather.

In a message dated  6/18/2012 1:15:20 A.M. UTC-02, Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx 
quoted from Grice,  literally:

"the objects revealed by perception should  surely
be  constituents of that world'.

For the record, this is from

Grice,  H. P. "Notes for Grice/Warnock retrospective", The Grice Papers, 
BANC MSS  90/135c, The Bancroft Library, University of California, Berkeley.

---  Grice was returning to the philosophy of perception, an area in which 
he had  worked with Sir Geoffrey J. Warnock and planning a "Grice/Warnock  
retrospective". 

The first topic that this 'retrospective' covers  is:

"The place of perception as a faculty or capacity 
in a sequence  of living things.'

---

Thinking about the issue of the philosophy  of perception in relation to 
his interest in creature-construction, Grice  wonders:

"at what point, if any, is further progress up
the  psychological ladder impossible unless
some rung has previously been assigned  
to creatures capable of perception?"

He goes on to dwell on the  advantages of perception in terms of survival, 
the crucial factor for adding any  capacity during creature-construction, 
and assesses the possible support this  might offer for common sense against 
philosophers of sense data.

(Cfr.  Paul, "Is there a problem about sense data?", that Grice worshiped, 
and  treasured).

If perception is to be seen as an advantage, providing  knowledge to aid 
survival in a particular world,

"the object revealed by  perception should be constituents 
of that world". 

It might be  possible to say that sense data do not themselves nourish or 
threaten, but  constitute evidence of things that do. 

If 'object' is perhaps too  technical for Grice, he preferred to drop the 
"j" and gemminate (if that's the  word) the 'b'.

The object in Grice becomes an  obble.

----

Grice writes, elsewhere, in "Lecture 1, 'Lectures on  language and 
reality', The Grice Papers, BANC MSS 90/135, Bancroft Library,  UC/Berkeley:

---

"a pirot can be said to potch of some obble  x
as fang or fent; also to cotch of x, or some obble o,
as fang or feng;  or to cotch of one obble o and 
another obble o' as being fid to one  another."

Decoded:

Pirots are much like ourselves -- Locke's  pirot, parot -- cfr. Carnap, 
pirots karulise elatically -. Pirots inhabit a  world of obbles very much like 
our own world.

Here we could have a play  on 'thing', rather than 'object'.

To potch is something like to perceive,  and to cotch something like to 
think. Feng and fang are possible descriptions,  much like our adjectives. Fid 
is a possible relation between obbles.

And  so on.

Cheers

Speranza  

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