Simon Ward and Robert Paul are right to suggest that in current UK usage "geezer" lacks any necessary derogatory connotation and may even be positive ('diamond geezer') but it may be used negatively ('dodgy geezer'). It is equivalent to 'bloke'. Geezer, like 'bloke', also does not suggest an old person but "codger" does -the 'old' is kind of implicit. Donal The Diamond not Dodgy Geezer Though my loan application has just been turned down by that puffed-up codger at the Grameen Bank for some reason ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" ? The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html