[lit-ideas] Re: Diabetes (paging David Ritchie)

  • From: David Ritchie <ritchierd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:54:18 -0800


On Nov 17, 2008, at 2:23 PM, Teemu Pyyluoma wrote:


Blogger told this confirmed his suspicions, he had been convinced by a pandemic researcher that there is something very wrong with the picture we have of diabetes, because it is increasing faster than obesity or other given causes. Now this reminds me of something David wrote, and I believe studied, couple years ago.

As I recall, the subject was shell-shock and WWI. Point being that it was primarily diagnosed in working class soldiers, while officers had pathologies more fitting a gentleman. (It wasn't the other way around?) Could it be the same with diabetes, obesity is connected to social status, so it is by default assumed that any lower class diseases have something more or less vaguely to do it with how they live. (And if David's point was indeed the other way around, this theses is going nowhere...)


With the one qualification that there was no single "it," --"shellshock" was a catch-all diagnosis--you have remembered my point; because officers were regarded as being more trustworthy sorts of people, their symptoms tended to be, I'll use an acting reference though I don't want to imply that they were acting, "smaller."

Click on the third image at this site and you'll see a video which has three sets of source: still photos of early plastic surgery and skin grafts, video footage from Netley--these are British other ranks, suffering from shellshock, video footage from a film about German treatment of shellshock (the guy who looks like Dr. Caligari is the identifying feature). I can't find video footage of officers. WARNING: THESE IMAGES ARE NOT FOR THE SQUEAMISH.

http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DYdUEBzeA_qs

My impression is that there is now agreement among historians of medicine nowadays on what I and other proposed twenty or more years ago--there is a cultural element at play in the defining of some ailments. I write "my impression is" because I haven't been to a conference in that specialty recently and I no longer get the Journal of the History of Medicine. The thesis you propose may be worth investigating.

David Ritchie,
Portland, Oregon
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