In a message dated 10/10/2004 7:16:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: So Mayo and Derrida died on the same day. ----- Yep. I was wondering if one can actually use "pass" (_simpliciter_ and idiomatically) to mean "die". It seems it's usually "pass away". Apparently, 'pass' _simpliciter_ *can* mean "has died", or "died", or "dies". It's amazing how dying being what it is, it can be realised _grammatically_ so differently in the English language. In Latin it was just one way: "occipit". Cheers, JL To depart from this life, decease, die. a. with various extensions, as to pass hence, etc. a1300 Cursor M. 17019 e ..wittes five..all sal be tint er saul pas. a1330 Roland & V. 130 To sende him Tot & space,..Er he hennes passe. c1375 Lay Folks Mass Bk. 295 (MS. B) And for o soules at hethen are past. 1482 Monk of Evesham (Arb.) 72 The sowlys that passyn hens out of this world. 1583 Leg. Bp. St. Androis Pref. 74 Lyk to our faythfull pastoris past befoir. 1613 SHAKES. Hen. VIII, IV. ii. 162 His long trouble now is passing Out of this world. 1871 R. ELLIS Catullus lxiv. 153 No handful of earth shall bury me, pass'd to the shadows. 1874 L. STEPHEN Hours in Library (1892) I. vii. 237 There passed from among us a man who held a high..position in English literature. b. simply. Now arch. or dial. 1340 Ayenb. 214 Non ne wot huanne he ssel sterue ne huanne he ssel paci. c1386 CHAUCER Sqr.'s T. 486 Myn harm I wol confessen er I pace. 1418 in E.E. Wills (1883) 38 yf at I passe Rather an sche. 1593 SHAKES. 2 Hen. VI, III. iii. 25 Disturbe him not, let him passe peaceably. 1605 Lear V. iii. 314 Vex not his ghost, O let him passe. 1850 TENNYSON In Mem. lx, He past; a soul of nobler tone. 1878 SEELEY Stein III. 560 About 6 o'clock [he] was seen to turn on his left side, breathe a deep sigh, and pass. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html