Thanks to McCreery for commentary in "Sung Heroes". I'll try to see if I can find an example that would qualify as a counterexample for what he is looking. This below are quotes in the OED for 'oral tradition' (under 'oral'). It seems to me that the PRIMACY of the Spoken Word is presupposed in MOST MYTHS. The fact that it is a literate culture that 'retrieves' the myth is accidental. I think a proof for your thesis would be to show a myth where the world is not spoken of (as you say), but WRITTEN off. Royce said that History was a book, where characters are written, and things like that -- (this is cited by Borges in his "Partial Magic in The Quixote). But that would hardly qualify as a graphopoetic myth (Carlyle held a similar view). Don't you hate the expression 'word of mouth'. Where else can a _word_ come from? Cheers, JL "oral", Of, relating to, or designating a tradition, culture, society, etc., in which the spoken word is the chief form of communication; (of stories, poems, etc.) delivered or transmitted in this way, esp. from generation to generation. 1628 _BP. J. HALL_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-h.html#bp-j-hall) Olde Relig. XVI. iii. 167 As for orall Traditions, what certaintie can there be in them? 1678 _R. CUDWORTH_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-c4.html#r-cudworth) True Intellect. Syst. Universe I. v. 693 This Notion..was from the first Feigner or Inventor of it, propagated all along and conveyed down, by Oral Tradition. 1767 _T. PERCY_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-p2.html#t-percy) Ess. Anc. Minstrels 44 He [sc. Asser] has however particularly recorded Alfred's fondness for the oral Anglo-Saxon poems and songs. 1775 _J. ADAIR_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-a.html#j-adair) Hist. Amer. Indians 11 They..still retain the ancient standard of speech, conveyed down by oral tradition from father to son. 1892 _J. EARLE_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-e.html#j-earle) Deeds of Beowulf p. xlvi, Müllenhoff had discovered six different authors, of which the first two were oral poets, but the third had a written copy of the rudimentary work as it then existed. 1898 _S. A. BROOKE_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-b4.html#s-a-brooke) Eng. Lit. from Beginnings to Norman Conquest ii. 42 This was the origin of the early unhistoric sagas, like that of Beowulf, and such a saga was the highest form of the oral literature of the German tribes. 1929 W. E. LEONARD in K. Malone & M. B. Ruud Stud. in Eng. Philol. in Honor of F. Klaeber 1 The intrinsic nature..of oral or chanted verse as inevitably emphasizing an organic metrical pattern. 1953 S. A. BROWN in A. Dundes Mother Wit (1973) 40/1 The Negro was contributing..through what we call oral The Negro folk literature. 1988 Classical Q. 38 44 Archilochus' message-stick has nothing to do with writing, but is a relic of the old oral culture in which he and his audience grew up. 1993 N.Y. Times 14 Sept. C15/2 The task of preserving Hawaii's less tangible treasures:..the oral genealogies of its island families, its hulas and its myths. J. L. Speranza, Esq. Town: Calle Arenales 2021, Piso 5, St. 8, La Recoleta C1124AAE, Buenos Aires, Argentina. Tel. 54 11 4824 4253 Fax 54 221 425 9205 Country: St. Michael Hall, Calle 58, No. 611, La Plata B1900 BPY Provincia de Buenos Aires, Argentina. Tel. 54 221 425 7817 Fax 54 221 425 9205 http://www.stmichaels.com.ar jls@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx jlsperanza@xxxxxxx http://www.netverk/~jls.htm ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com