[lit-ideas] Bird Songs At Eventide
- From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
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- Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:31:08 -0500 (EST)
In a message dated 2/29/2012 6:17:46 P.M. UTC-02,
donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx quotes from Phatic
>>"There is no music before language."
>>Jacques Derrida, Of Grammatology>
and writes:
>"And neither before breathing."
>Johnny Weismuller, On Swimming.
It may do to define "music". Mousa, in Greek, is the source.
Grice (if you've heard of him*)
* this is an Austin conditional: there are biscuits in the cupboard, if you
are hungry.
would distinguish
-- x means
-- By uttering x, U (utterer) means that p.
For Grice, language is SACRED, but many other things (which mean) are NOT
linguistic. Take bird song.
It is a commonplace that human music is imitative of music in nature, as
per bird songs, etc. (J. K. was referring to the _beat_ of nature,
elsewhere).
Does bird song count as music? Darwinistically, it does. Bird song (unlike
SOME folk song) fulfills a _sexual_ function. L. Armstrong quoted:
"Folksong? I never heard a horse singing one."
Derrida is trying to be clever. Weissmuller isn't.
Cheers,
Speranza
--- Johann Peter Weißmüller, (genannt Johnny Weissmuller, getauft auf den
Namen János Weißmüller; * 2. Juni 1904 in Freidorf, Österreich-Ungarn, heute
ein Stadtteil von Timișoara, Rumänien; † 20. Januar 1984 in Acapulco,
Mexiko) war ein US-amerikanischer Schwimmer, Wasserballspieler, fünffacher
Olympiasieger und Filmschauspieler. Er war der erste Mensch, der die 100 Meter
unter einer Minute schwamm. Er gilt als der bekannteste Tarzan-Darsteller.
Als Weissmüller sieben Monate alt war, wanderten seine Eltern, die Banater
Schwaben Petrus Weißmüller und Elisabeth Kersch, aus Österreich-Ungarn in
die USA aus, wo sie am 26. Januar 1905 in Ellis Island, New York ankamen.
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