In a message dated 5/24/2009 1:13:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ritchierd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Knots by an old salt dog. How I figure the crab trap will work, is this: your float ties on with a round turn and three half hitches--the extra is just for show. I'm no go when it comes to the Flemish Blend, the Sailor's Whipping, the Sheepshank, the Ashley Stopper, the Sinnet Chain, the Taut or Bunt Line Hitch; I forget all of these, but I've still got the bowline, with the crocodile coming out the water, round the tree, and back down around. Would you like one now? David Ritchie, ----- Good Sunday poem by D. Ritchie. When and if D. Ritchie has the time, I'd like to discuss and debate further on this list his sabbatical...! :) I think he was interested in the topic of "Victoriana" as 'trans-national'? As a Scots, Brits, and American, he surely can write about that! As an Argie, can I?! I was recently reading something about Italian opera, and I find some otiose references to 'the edwardian period', the 'victorian period' etc. as having validity for Europe, or Italy, or Buenos Aires... I wonder! ----- The "Victorian" ethos I can identify with: Leon Cavallo, as she spelt it, was Victoria's favourite of the 'verismo' composers. She met him at Nice (or Monaco) but he failed to attend a private function she had at Windsor when she had "I Pagliacci" played for her. --- "Edwardian", 'opera edoardiana'? -- is more like Puccini, but it's more difficult to see how "Edwardian" could travel. --- When an Englishman met me he called me an "Edwardian in orbit". He knew of a book (by an actor) called "A Victorian In Orbit" but he wanted to play games. ------ Cheers, J. L. Speranza Buenos Aires, Argentina **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002) ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html