"When you write "the Loeb", I assume you mean Henry Loeb who was mayor of Memphis during the Garbage Strike and the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. He was educated at Brown [R. I., University], had a degree in [Languages, English] and was thorough-going racist and anti-labor bigot. He refused to integrate the city schools in a peaceful manner like the mayors of Atlanta and Houston did, thus setting Memphis back several years in development. His refusal to recognize and negotiate with the garbage workers union is what brought MLK to Memphis and his subsequent death. When his tenure as Mayor was over, Loeb he moved to Forrest City, AR about 45 miles west of Memphis -- a town named after Nathan Bedford Forrest, one of the original founders of the KKK -- an appropriate place for him. He died not very long ago. And good riddance. I'm sure that's the Loeb you mean. I don't know of any other Loebs." Mmmm. Interesting. I was really wonder about the surname Loeb. I suppose in German should come out as: "Löb" and in Roman as "Lœb". Indeed, it is tragic what you wrote since in Old Finn, "Löb" means "Love". I thought it was a Jewish name -- and yes Jewish people can be racist, so no wonder there --. I came to the conclusion it could be a Jewish surname because he dedicates 45 volumes of his library to "Jewish Antiquities" (in either Greek or Latin, though). But then I think it could be a German name, which would explain he's moving to the KKK town you mention, "Forrest". The association of the Löb with Heinemann is interesting (Recall that the LCL was published originally in England by Heinemann. Now this again I take to be either German or Continental Jewish. The surname strictly means, hinnyman which is the result of the mating of a man (or female) and the offspring of a stallion and a she-ass. I didn't think Harvard was too much influenced by Jewish culture, so perhaps this is all wrong and Loeb is just a good surname -- the Massachussets branch anyway -- for a cultured German family. I'm assuming Henry Loeb was the nephew of James Loeb, the founder of the James Loeb Classical Library (c) The President and Fellows of Harvard College [never University]. This was founded in 1911 -- just before the Great War and when the Americans really had important things on their agenda -- like editing Tacitus and Suetonius -- rather than kill Germans. The tragic side is that perhaps Loeb's son _was_ drafted and perhaps he was even killed in Somme. But the man continued with the project of the library, which today stands as a memorial to Graeco-Roman civilisation and what meant to be a 'cultured' gentleman. The fact that Henry was a bad man could possibly be traced to BROWN. This 'educational' institution is as they say in New England, "neither fish nor fowl" -- not really Ivy League nor red brick. The students are drawn mainly for the beauty of Newport and the possibilities of sailing (although they soon realize they have to stay in BORING 'Providence', which is quite a stretch to Newport. Thanks for the eponymy, anyway, JL ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com