[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Status ueb integration
- From: Davy Kager <DavyKager@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 11:25:51 +0000
Maybe I'm missing something, but a decimal point can occur in the middle of a
number, such ad $14.76
Exactly. So begnum is not entirely the same as decpoint and therefore you need
both begnum and midnum. The begnum opcode is needed for languages such as
English where .06 is the short form of 0.06 and midnum is always needed. So one
should be able to use either decpoint on its own or a combination of
begnum/midnum with numericmodechars.
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Onderwerp: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Status ueb integration
Maybe I'm missing something, but a decimal point can occur in the middle of a
number, such ad $14.76
John
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:10:09AM +0000, Davy Kager wrote:
I can see only one potential problem if decpoint is a shorthand for
begnum and
numericmodechars:
If a number such as .06 needs to be translated to #.jf, that may not be
supported by numericmodechars and begnum (I don't know, I have to check).
So in this case we should probably change the behavior of one of these two
opcodes in order to fit the bill.
It works (tested with nl-NL-g0.utb). There is one problem: in 123.456 the
period is marked as punctuatin by lou_trace. So the semantics of decpoint are
a little different. It is more like a 'begmidnum', which doesn't currently
exist. Maybe this is a useful addition, since abusing decpoint for this is a
little ugly. But of course you can also define both begnum and midnum. The
same case can be made for begmidword.
Davy
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Onderwerp: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Status ueb integration
Bert, is this in line with your ideas?
Yes.
I can see only one potential problem if decpoint is a shorthand for
begnum and
numericmodechars:
If a number such as .06 needs to be translated to #.jf, that may not be
supported by numericmodechars and begnum (I don't know, I have to check). So
in this case we should probably change the behavior of one of these two
opcodes in order to fit the bill.
Davy Kager writes:
The question is if it is useful to have something that is a
'decpoint' but that still ends a number
While we could achieve this behavior with a combination of
numericmodechars and decpoint, I think we should try to keep
supporting decpoint, e.g. by just automatically adding decpoint characters
to numericmodechars.
What I was thinking of is that decpoint is really a shorthand for begnum
and numericmodechars. So
decpoint . 46
is equivalent to
begnum . 46
numericmodechars .
There is no 'decpoint' character type, so really all the opcode does is
combine begnum and numericmodechars. And some tables may actually want to
use midnum instead of begnum, e.g. in Dutch a number like .06 isn't seen a
lot.
So to summarize, you should use one of these two options:
1. decpoint, which is a shorthand for begnum and numericmodechars. This is
the old behavior. Note that this doesn't work with the UEB patches, but can
easily be fixed.
2. begnum/midnum and numericmodechars. This is the new and IMO much more
elegant solution.
Bert, is this in line with your ideas?
Davy
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Onderwerp: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Status ueb integration
Davy Kager writes:
The question is if it is useful to have something that is a
'decpoint' but that still ends a number
AFAIK decpoint it has two purposes: it does not end a number, and it
only matches when it preceeds a digit.
While we could achieve this behavior with a combination of
numericmodechars and decpoint, I think we should try to keep
supporting decpoint, e.g. by just automatically adding decpoint characters
to numericmodechars.
For cases when a decpoint should end a number, begnum could be used instead.
Why are these only failing with the yaml test harness? Is the
Python harness not ran with make check?
Exactly.
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