Geesh Art...I feel the same way. What a fast way to destroy an illusion... Elliot ----- Original Message ----- From: jnswickard@xxxxxxxxxxx To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 12:49 PM Subject: [LRFlex] Re: wbill Art, After all these years of secretly wanting an Alpa--you have successfully crushed it all in one email. And I thought I had troubles with the Rolleiflex 2000 system. I will stick with my Leica R system--my wife will be soooo happy. Thanks for the info, Jack -------------- Original message -------------- In reference to ALPA's, (AAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!), I once had a 9D, which went back to Heitz repair NINE TIMES!! Finally, Carl Heitz himself came down to Knoxville, TN to pay a visit to Ed Thompson, of thompson Photo Products. Ed told Mr. Heitz about all of the troubles that I had with the camera and Mr. Heitz, hand carried the camera back to his offices and made sure that it was properly repaired. All it took was a complete replacement of all of the circuits in the camera!! After I got my 9d back, I used it for about two years, but it was never the same. I divested myself of the camera and numerous adapters including Nikon & Leica. I sold it to my daughter's Pediatrician, who knew fair well the history of the camera, but he had always wanted an ALPA for his collection so he bought it from me. He still has it after 10 years and has never used it once!! Art Tafil