[LRflex] Re: Update to my Cam & Optical Query Question

  • From: "William B. Abbott III" <captbilly3@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:23:21 -0700

Richard,

Things move slowly in Leica World. My Summicron-R 50mm f/2, which I bought used some years ago, was made by Leitz at their now closed Midland, Canada factory in 1979 and has been upgraded to ROM. The new ones are 50 grams heavier so something was changed between 2002, when the lighter version was deemed "current" in the 7th Edition of the Hove's Leica Pocket Book,

On the subject of books, the Hove's Leica Pocket Book has provided me with a lot of information and insight into Leica lenses. It seems to be no longer in print but used copies are available on Amazon for around $20. That edition also seems to be the latest.

Also, if you have a moment, go to

http://us.leica-camera.com

and work your way through "R System" to "Lenses" and choose one. You'll then have a choice of "Technical Data" and "Know How" from which to chose.

Try both and see if either suits your fancy. The Technical Data downloads were very helpful to me in understanding the DOF of a couple of lenses in order to improve my images made in a dimly lighted church where DOF was critical as everything was shot wide open at the highest ISO available.

Hope this is helpful to you.

All the best,

Bill




On Jul 29, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Richard Ward wrote:

Hi Doug & List,
I am systemically dipping into the Resource a listmember provided (quite generously) and I am catching onto the incredible lack of linkage between a lenses' Optical Formula and how many Cams are or are not hanging off the back of it. While not being a universal truism, the # of cams is more important as an advisory of which SLRs the lens will be compatible with and in corrollary an indication of the physical age of the lens itself. The 'gestalt' of designing the lens 'correctly' in the first place of the Leica Realm is so much different than the tailchasing plethora of AF lenses trying to continually be new and different I grew accustomed to over the last decade or two. I'm quite thankful to the inputs people are providing after my postings and questions. They are sincerely appreciated. I would like to note that the way Leica lenses were handling contrast and flare and out of focus transitions & renderings in the images I began encountering while looking for Manual Focus options for my Canon are why I'm looking for those lenses to try, experiment with, and likely fall in love with.

Richard

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From: "wildlightphoto@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <wildlightphoto@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:25:00 PM
Subject: [LRflex] Re: (LRflex) Shopping Frustration

Richard Ward wrote:

>>>
Is there appreciable optical differences between, for instance, a 1 cam
Summicron 50 f2 and a late model rom/3cammer of the same lens?
<<<

For the 50 'cron there are some differences, mostly at the widest
apertures. In general it's like asking which is a better flavor, chocolate or strawberry? Other features should be considered too, such as the filter size. The Series VI filters for the early lenses can be difficult to find
while the 55mm filter size of the later lenses is very common.

One example where I've seen a significant difference is with the 35mm
Elmarit-R (f/2.8).  Even when it was current, Leica only described the
first version (Series VI filters) as a 'good' lens while everything else was described with superlatives. I found that the later versions of this
lens (Series VII or E55 filters) are significantly better in detail
rendition and flare suppression.

The cam/ROM configuration isn't a reliable guide to the version because
most older lenses can be retrofitted with additional cams or ROM.

Doug Herr
Birdman of Sacramento
http://www.wildlightphoto.com

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