[LRflex] Re: R7 vs R6.2

  • From: a aa <classwp@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:48:34 -0400

P.S:- FWIW,  the Pop Photo review of the R6.2's shutter  revealed that
it was not as accurate as the electronic shutter of the R5/7 models.


On 28 April 2010 07:08, a aa <classwp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I've owned every Leica R  model from the original Leicaflex Mk I to
> the R7. When I got the 6.2 it was for all the usual reasons,
> mechanical camera, no battery dependence, etc, etc. I soon realised
> that it was actually slower in use than the AE bodies because of the
> manual exposure settings. I eventually sold it and got another R7. I
> now have  3 R7 bodiess.
>
> So, as a former  R6.2 owner, I  recommend the  R7 as a better handling
>  camera for everyday use. It does everything the 6.2 does and gives
> you auto exposure in addition. Finder and build quality are identical
> and  as far as I remember the only difference between a 6.2 and an R5
> is the mechanical shutter.
>
> For the price of a mint 6.2 you could buy  two mint R7s and have some
> change left over.
>
> As always, the final decision is yours.
>
>
>
> On 27 April 2010 22:36, Richard <ryee3@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I want to purchase either an used R7 vs an R6.2.  Please let me know which
>> is a better purchase to use with a motor drive I have already for an R4.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Richard
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>> Subject: leicareflex Digest V7 #117
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>>> Leica Reflex Forum Digest
>>> +------------------------+------------------------------------
>>> leicareflex Digest Mon, 26 Apr 2010 Volume: 07  Issue: 117
>>>
>>> In This Issue:
>>> [LRflex] Re: R3
>>> [LRflex] Re: Some pics I forgot
>>> [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>> [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>> [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>> [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>> [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>> [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>> [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>> [LRflex] IMG: Venice
>>> [LRflex] Re: IMG: Venice
>>> [LRflex] Re: IMG: Venice
>>> [LRflex] Re: Some pics I forgot
>>> [LRflex] IMG: Stupa du Louvre
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: R3
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 05:23:15 -0400
>>> From: "George A. Furst" <gfurst01568@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> I have an R3 that I have had for 5 years and it always works and the
>>> battery is very easy to find (same as on the M7). It has been a workhouse
>>> and fits all the three cam R lens. The viewfinder is not as bright as the
>>> Leicaflex SLs and it is heavier than the later Rs but is a tough camera.
>>> I enjoy using it as it has a nice feel. Do check the area around the film
>>> window on the back as there is sometimes a light leak there. It is easy to
>>> fix with a little foam insert but other than that I have had no problems.
>>> I paid around $300 US back then. So the price sounds right. Sincerely,
>>> George in Korea
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Noel Yates <noel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Sat, Apr 24, 2010 3:10 am
>>> Subject: [LRflex] R3
>>>
>>>
>>> At 06:06 14/04/2010, REG wrote:
>>> There's an R3 just around the corner
>>> from me for only AU$400 in nice condition, anyone got any experience of
>>> this lovely looking camera?
>>> Reg,
>>> My two R3 bodies have been with me for nearly 25 years and still work
>>> s if new. Both have been serviced in that time, of course. I have no
>>> lans ever to part with them.
>>> I love my SL and SL2, too.
>>> Go for that R3,
>>> Noel
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>>>
>>> From: "Axel Collier" <axel.collier@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Some pics I forgot
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:08:25 +0200
>>>
>>> Hi Marc
>>> if you have the time and means to make that kind of trips, you must be a
>>> lucky guy ;-)
>>> I must say that i like your pictures, hope you find the time to travel to
>>> Java and make some more with the new stuff , and share them with us.
>>> I think it is important in life that we keep dreaming and make at least a
>>> part of those dreams come real.
>>> what camera would you take with you ?
>>> greetings, axel
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Marc Dufour" <foto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 9:36 PM
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Some pics I forgot
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Axel,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for looking and comment. So, you like blue tones ! I also do !
>>>> The picture you remind is one of my favorite, taken in 1997 with R 6.2 /
>>>> Vario-Elmar 70-210 / Velvia 100 / Nikon Coolscan II.
>>>> I should like to come back to Java, with the stuff I use now :-)
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Marc
>>>>
>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>>> De: leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Axel Collier
>>>> Enviado el: domingo, 25 de abril de 2010 18:44
>>>> Para: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Asunto: [LRflex] Re: Some pics I forgot
>>>>
>>>> hi
>>>> i prefer the first, but i like this one even more ;-)
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Marc/Landscape+VII/Papandayan.jpg.html
>>>> hope you don't mind !
>>>> greetings Axel
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Marc Dufour" <foto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "Leica User Forum" <admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>>>> <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:35 PM
>>>> Subject: [LRflex] Some pics I forgot
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Some pics I forgot, from New Zealand.
>>>>> As usual, landscapes and textures.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Marc/Landscape+VII/Pukaki+L1040940.jp
>>>>> g.html
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Marc/Landscapes+VIII/Yellow.jpg.html
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Marc/Seascapes+II/Rough+sea+II.jpg.ht
>>>>> ml
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Marc/Others+from+New+Zealand/Seasweed
>>>>> +IV.jp
>>>>> g.html
>>>>>
>>>>> C&C welcome,
>>>>> Marc
>>>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> From: "Axel Collier" <axel.collier@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:13:00 +0200
>>>
>>> I find it a bit confusing or maybee busy, but maybee that is just me.
>>> I prefer simplicity like in this one
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Paris+here+and+there/Relais+Odeon-1160116-2.jpg.html
>>> greetings axel
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Charlie Chan" <topoxforddoc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 5:53 PM
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>>
>>>
>>>> Philippe,
>>>>
>>>> Nice perspective on the oddly shaped bar. I like the way the image falls
>>>> off either side of the seated people.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie Chan
>>>> Cheltenham, UK
>>>>
>>>> topoxforddoc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> www.cancer-surgeon.co.uk
>>>> www.charlie-chan.co.uk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22 Apr 2010, at 09:01, <philippe.amard@xxxxxx> <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I finally gave in, it starts here:
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Paris+here+and+there/Le+Rocher+de+Cancale-1160160-2.jpg.html
>>>>> Some may be viewed large I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Flowers and Phuzzillogix I won't give up though.
>>>>> C&C welcome, but you all know this.
>>>>> Bien cordialement de Mutz.
>>>>> Philippe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NO ARCHIVE
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>> From: Robert Lilley <speyerdom@xxxxxxx>
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 07:16:28 -0400
>>>
>>> Axel,
>>> You are a modern day Atget!
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> On Apr 26, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Axel Collier wrote:
>>>
>>>> I find it a bit confusing or maybee busy, but maybee that is just me.
>>>> I prefer simplicity like in this one
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Paris+here+and+there/Relais+Odeon-1160116-2.jpg.html
>>>> greetings axel
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Charlie Chan" <topoxforddoc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 5:53 PM
>>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Philippe,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice perspective on the oddly shaped bar. I like the way the image falls
>>>>> off either side of the seated people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie Chan
>>>>> Cheltenham, UK
>>>>>
>>>>> topoxforddoc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> www.cancer-surgeon.co.uk
>>>>> www.charlie-chan.co.uk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22 Apr 2010, at 09:01, <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
>>>>> <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I finally gave in, it starts here:
>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Paris+here+and+there/Le+Rocher+de+Cancale-1160160-2.jpg.html
>>>>>> Some may be viewed large I think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Flowers and Phuzzillogix I won't give up though.
>>>>>> C&C welcome, but you all know this.
>>>>>> Bien cordialement de Mutz.
>>>>>> Philippe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NO ARCHIVE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> From: "Axel Collier" <axel.collier@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:27:34 +0200
>>>
>>> Sorry Rob
>>> The picture is not mine
>>> if that is what you mean ?
>>> greetings, axel
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Robert Lilley" <speyerdom@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:16 PM
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>>
>>>
>>>> Axel,
>>>> You are a modern day Atget!
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 26, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Axel Collier wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I find it a bit confusing or maybee busy, but maybee that is just me.
>>>>> I prefer simplicity like in this one
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Paris+here+and+there/Relais+Odeon-1160116-2.jpg.html
>>>>> greetings axel
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Charlie Chan" <topoxforddoc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 5:53 PM
>>>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Philippe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice perspective on the oddly shaped bar. I like the way the image
>>>>>> falls
>>>>>> off either side of the seated people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie Chan
>>>>>> Cheltenham, UK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> topoxforddoc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> www.cancer-surgeon.co.uk
>>>>>> www.charlie-chan.co.uk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22 Apr 2010, at 09:01, <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
>>>>>> <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I finally gave in, it starts here:
>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Paris+here+and+there/Le+Rocher+de+Cancale-1160160-2.jpg.html
>>>>>>> Some may be viewed large I think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Flowers and Phuzzillogix I won't give up though.
>>>>>>> C&C welcome, but you all know this.
>>>>>>> Bien cordialement de Mutz.
>>>>>>> Philippe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NO ARCHIVE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>> From: Robert Lilley <speyerdom@xxxxxxx>
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:26:52 -0400
>>>
>>> Opps!  Well who ever took it is a modern Day Atget!
>>> Rob
>>> On Apr 26, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Axel Collier wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry Rob
>>>> The picture is not mine
>>>> if that is what you mean ?
>>>> greetings, axel
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Robert Lilley" <speyerdom@xxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:16 PM
>>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Axel,
>>>>> You are a modern day Atget!
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Axel Collier wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I find it a bit confusing or maybee busy, but maybee that is just me.
>>>>>> I prefer simplicity like in this one
>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Paris+here+and+there/Relais+Odeon-1160116-2.jpg.html
>>>>>> greetings axel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Charlie Chan" <topoxforddoc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 5:53 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Philippe,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice perspective on the oddly shaped bar. I like the way the image
>>>>>>> falls
>>>>>>> off either side of the seated people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charlie Chan
>>>>>>> Cheltenham, UK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> topoxforddoc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> www.cancer-surgeon.co.uk
>>>>>>> www.charlie-chan.co.uk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22 Apr 2010, at 09:01, <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
>>>>>>> <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I finally gave in, it starts here:
>>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Paris+here+and+there/Le+Rocher+de+Cancale-1160160-2.jpg.html
>>>>>>>> Some may be viewed large I think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Flowers and Phuzzillogix I won't give up though.
>>>>>>>> C&C welcome, but you all know this.
>>>>>>>> Bien cordialement de Mutz.
>>>>>>>> Philippe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NO ARCHIVE
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> From: "philippe.amard" <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:03:52 +0200
>>>
>>> Blushing here
>>>
>>> Thanks all for your nice comments.
>>>
>>> I had been unsubscribed, not had, and am only restoring normal
>>> operation.
>>> I don't know what happened David, it is the second time.
>>> My posts may be felt as offensive by some authority ?!? neither you
>>> nor Xavier I know.
>>>
>>> Bien cordialement de Metz
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>> Le 26 avr. 10 à 15:26, Robert Lilley a écrit :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Opps!  Well who ever took it is a modern Day Atget!
>>>> Rob
>>>> On Apr 26, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Axel Collier wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry Rob
>>>>> The picture is not mine
>>>>> if that is what you mean ?
>>>>> greetings, axel
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Robert Lilley" <speyerdom@xxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:16 PM
>>>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Axel,
>>>>>> You are a modern day Atget!
>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Axel Collier wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I find it a bit confusing or maybee busy, but maybee that is just
>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>> I prefer simplicity like in this one
>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Paris+here+and+there/Relais+Odeon-1160116-2.jpg.html
>>>>>>> greetings axel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Charlie Chan" <topoxforddoc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 5:53 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Philippe,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nice perspective on the oddly shaped bar. I like the way the
>>>>>>>> image falls
>>>>>>>> off either side of the seated people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Charlie Chan
>>>>>>>> Cheltenham, UK
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> topoxforddoc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> www.cancer-surgeon.co.uk
>>>>>>>> www.charlie-chan.co.uk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22 Apr 2010, at 09:01, <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I finally gave in, it starts here:
>>>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Paris+here+and+there/Le+Rocher+de+Cancale-1160160-2.jpg.html
>>>>>>>>> Some may be viewed large I think.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Flowers and Phuzzillogix I won't give up though.
>>>>>>>>> C&C welcome, but you all know this.
>>>>>>>>> Bien cordialement de Mutz.
>>>>>>>>> Philippe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> NO ARCHIVE
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:11:02 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Richard Ward <ilovaussiesheps@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>>
>>> Hello Philippe!
>>>   I actually did click on the 'rectangle' because adverse conclusions on
>>> any image when seen small is a very dicey proposition to set out upon!
>>> Good way to end up with mud on my face. :-) I actually wasn't thinking of
>>> 'just' cropping when I noted my wondering about the Framing in these two
>>> images.  As I contemplated the 'Cafe' scene and my eye moved around the
>>> image exploring it's content my eye kept 'running' out the edge of the
>>> frame looking for the 'rest' of most specifically the signage at the top,
>>> but other things as well. While criticizing an image for not being wide
>>> enough when shot with a 14mm focal length seems insane, that's the problem
>>> I find with it! Street photography, as I know it, is partly defined by
>>> it's loose framing discipline with an emphasis upon finding special
>>> moments in time over being excercises in visual craftings, therefore my
>>> framing criticism(s) might not be entirely well placed.
>>> Anyway, Keep em coming! I might have shared criticism of them, but am glad
>>> to have seen em. :-)
>>>
>>> Peace
>>>
>>> Richard in MIchigan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: "philippe.amard@xxxxxx" <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
>>> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 12:03:37 PM
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>>
>>> De : "Richard Ward " <ilovaussiesheps@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Philippe,
>>>   Thanks for sharing, makes me want to go there! :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Most welcome now that flights restrictions are thawing
>>>
>>>
>>> Now, for a bit of 'pot calling the kettle black' after I posted my
>>> w-i-d-e-l-y cropped baseball shots, I do wonder how well framed some of
>>> these are.
>>> Good question indeed.
>>> The cafe scene at the start and the Montmartre-1160019 street scene (with
>>> the leaning fellow and the fellow walking into the scene) come to mind as
>>> potentially benefiting from a different framing when shot or a crop in
>>> post processing.
>>>
>>>
>>> You sure are right Richard,
>>> The cafe scene was shot at 14mm (35mm eq.) because I wanted the angle and
>>> the full view on both sides - now I was VERY close to these people. If you
>>> have a big screen, click on the rectangles above the photo, and then make
>>> you own framing ;-) I'd rather keep the whole view as presented.
>>>
>>>
>>> Here again, by cropping either I lose the setting and some of the
>>> lighting, or the characters. When seen large, this flaw is somewhat
>>> repaired as your eyes can wander across the picture.
>>> Both might be better printed large and seen upon a wall rather than on a
>>> screen; that's progress :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't get me wrong, as moments in time and scenes captured, they're aces.
>>>
>>>
>>> No harm intended or felt Richard; posting means inviting for comments,
>>> yours are precious to me.
>>> Thanks again
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard in Michigan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: "philippe.amard@xxxxxx"
>>>
>>> To: LUG ; Liste reflex
>>> Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 4:01:20 AM
>>> Subject: [LRflex] IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>>
>>> I finally gave in, it starts here:
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Paris+here+and+there/Le+Rocher+de+Cancale-1160160-2.jpg.html
>>> Some may be viewed large I think.
>>>
>>> Flowers and Phuzzillogix I won't give up though.
>>> C&C welcome, but you all know this.
>>> Bien cordialement de Mutz.
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: "philippe.amard" <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:21:43 +0200
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>> Le 26 avr. 10 à 17:11, Richard Ward a écrit :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Philippe!
>>>>   I actually did click on the 'rectangle' because adverse
>>>> conclusions on any image when seen small is a very dicey proposition
>>>> to set out upon! Good way to end up with mud on my face. :-) I
>>>> actually wasn't thinking of 'just' cropping when I noted my
>>>> wondering about the Framing in these two images.  As I contemplated
>>>> the 'Cafe' scene and my eye moved around the image exploring it's
>>>> content my eye kept 'running' out the edge of the frame looking for
>>>> the 'rest' of most specifically the signage at the top, but other
>>>> things as well. While criticizing an image for not being wide enough
>>>> when shot with a 14mm focal length seems insane, that's the problem
>>>> I find with it! Street photography, as I know it, is partly defined
>>>> by it's loose framing discipline with an emphasis upon finding
>>>> special moments in time over being excercises in visual craftings,
>>>> therefore my framing criticism(s) might not be entirely well placed.
>>>> Anyway, Keep em coming! I might have shared criticism of them, but
>>>> am glad to have seen em. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Peace
>>>>
>>>> Richard in MIchigan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: "philippe.amard@xxxxxx" <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
>>>> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 12:03:37 PM
>>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>>>
>>>> De : "Richard Ward " <ilovaussiesheps@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Philippe,
>>>>   Thanks for sharing, makes me want to go there! :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most welcome now that flights restrictions are thawing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now, for a bit of 'pot calling the kettle black' after I posted my w-
>>>> i-d-e-l-y cropped baseball shots, I do wonder how well framed some
>>>> of these are.
>>>> Good question indeed.
>>>> The cafe scene at the start and the Montmartre-1160019 street scene
>>>> (with the leaning fellow and the fellow walking into the scene) come
>>>> to mind as potentially benefiting from a different framing when shot
>>>> or a crop in post processing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You sure are right Richard,
>>>> The cafe scene was shot at 14mm (35mm eq.) because I wanted the
>>>> angle and the full view on both sides - now I was VERY close to
>>>> these people. If you have a big screen, click on the rectangles
>>>> above the photo, and then make you own framing ;-) I'd rather keep
>>>> the whole view as presented.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here again, by cropping either I lose the setting and some of the
>>>> lighting, or the characters. When seen large, this flaw is somewhat
>>>> repaired as your eyes can wander across the picture.
>>>> Both might be better printed large and seen upon a wall rather than
>>>> on a screen; that's progress :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't get me wrong, as moments in time and scenes captured, they're
>>>> aces.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No harm intended or felt Richard; posting means inviting for
>>>> comments, yours are precious to me.
>>>> Thanks again
>>>> Philippe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard in Michigan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: "philippe.amard@xxxxxx"
>>>>
>>>> To: LUG ; Liste reflex
>>>> Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 4:01:20 AM
>>>> Subject: [LRflex] IMG: An attempt at Street photography
>>>>
>>>> I finally gave in, it starts here:
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Paris+here+and+there/Le+Rocher+de+Cancale-1160160-2.jpg.html
>>>> Some may be viewed large I think.
>>>>
>>>> Flowers and Phuzzillogix I won't give up though.
>>>> C&C welcome, but you all know this.
>>>> Bien cordialement de Mutz.
>>>> Philippe
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:38:35 +0200
>>> Subject: [LRflex] IMG: Venice
>>> From: Miha Golobic <miha.golobic@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> It was such a beautiful weather yesterday in Venice...a few pics to share:
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Miha/benetke+2010/
>>> Leicaflex SL, 28mm, Superia 200
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking!
>>>
>>>
>>> Miha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> From: "philippe.amard" <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: Venice
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:56:30 +0200
>>>
>>> Thanks for the instant trip Miha
>>>
>>> I like the newspapers stand, the boys and pigeons (have you tried BW
>>> on that one?), and of course the sepia Piazza (San Marco?)
>>> But my favourite is the last one, don't ask me why, look here ;-)
>>>  http://www.pileface.com/sollers/article.php3?id_article=162
>>>
>>> Well done
>>>
>>> Bien amicalement
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 26 avr. 10 à 17:38, Miha Golobic a écrit :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was such a beautiful weather yesterday in Venice...a few pics to
>>>> share:
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Miha/benetke+2010/
>>>> Leicaflex SL, 28mm, Superia 200
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for looking!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Miha
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:25:25 +0200
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: Venice
>>> From: Miha Golobic <miha.golobic@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the instant trip Miha
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You are welcome ;-)
>>>
>>>> I like the newspapers stand, the boys and pigeons (have you tried BW
>>>> on that one?),
>>>
>>>
>>> I have, but somehow I prefer it in colour
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Miha/F1000037-1.JPG.html
>>>
>>>
>>>> and of course the sepia Piazza (San Marco?)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed.
>>>
>>>
>>>> But my favourite is the last one, don't ask me why, look here ;-)
>>>>  http://www.pileface.com/sollers/article.php3?id_article=162
>>>
>>>
>>> This is what happens when you crop 28mm to become something like 300mm.
>>> Only with film, of course:-)
>>> But still, It's no Canaletto-:(
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well done
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you very much Philippe!
>>>
>>> Miha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> From: "Marc Dufour" <foto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Some pics I forgot
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:34:34 +0200
>>>
>>> Hi Axel,
>>> I'm a lucky man, no doubt !
>>> My luck is my wife, who share with me the taste for travel, and gives
>>> priority to it over other things :-)
>>> I don't know if we'll go another time to Java... There are so many places
>>> to
>>> vist, first...
>>> My luggage would be the Canon 5D MkII and some R lenses, which I'm just
>>> discovering.
>>> Geetings,
>>> Marc
>>>
>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> De: leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Axel Collier
>>> Enviado el: lunes, 26 de abril de 2010 13:08
>>> Para: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Asunto: [LRflex] Re: Some pics I forgot
>>>
>>> Hi Marc
>>> if you have the time and means to make that kind of trips, you must be a
>>> lucky guy ;-) I must say that i like your pictures, hope you find the time
>>> to travel to Java and make some more with the new stuff , and share them
>>> with us.
>>> I think it is important in life that we keep dreaming and make at least a
>>> part of those dreams come real.
>>> what camera would you take with you ?
>>> greetings, axel
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Marc Dufour" <foto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 9:36 PM
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Some pics I forgot
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Axel,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for looking and comment. So, you like blue tones ! I also do !
>>>> The picture you remind is one of my favorite, taken in 1997 with R 6.2 /
>>>> Vario-Elmar 70-210 / Velvia 100 / Nikon Coolscan II.
>>>> I should like to come back to Java, with the stuff I use now :-)
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Marc
>>>>
>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>>> De: leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Axel Collier
>>>> Enviado el: domingo, 25 de abril de 2010 18:44
>>>> Para: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Asunto: [LRflex] Re: Some pics I forgot
>>>>
>>>> hi
>>>> i prefer the first, but i like this one even more ;-)
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Marc/Landscape+VII/Papandayan.jpg.html
>>>> hope you don't mind !
>>>> greetings Axel
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Marc Dufour" <foto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "Leica User Forum" <admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>>>> <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:35 PM
>>>> Subject: [LRflex] Some pics I forgot
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Some pics I forgot, from New Zealand.
>>>>> As usual, landscapes and textures.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Marc/Landscape+VII/Pukaki+L1040940.jp
>>>>> g.html
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Marc/Landscapes+VIII/Yellow.jpg.html
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Marc/Seascapes+II/Rough+sea+II.jpg.ht
>>>>> ml
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Marc/Others+from+New+Zealand/Seasweed
>>>>> +IV.jp
>>>>> g.html
>>>>>
>>>>> C&C welcome,
>>>>> Marc
>>>>>
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>>> From: "philippe.amard" <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [LRflex] IMG: Stupa du Louvre
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:18:48 +0200
>>>
>>> And Pyramid
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Paris+here+and+there/Stupa+du+Louvre-1160095.jpg.html
>>>
>>> Bien cordialement de Metz
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>>
>>>
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