Hi all, I just got done doing some tweaking to my system. I just managed to get passive mode working (sort of) on my system. Here is what I did in the order that I did it: I first deleted all prior kisman anything. I then got checked out of CVS version 73 and built it . I then went to the system preferences and turned off all sharing, firewalls, everything. I then set my system to ask for a password prompt before loging in. then I turned off the airport and card by clicking on the radio button in the upper right corner and rebooted. Once rebooted I went to (user here)/KisMACng/build/deployment/kismac double clickeked on kismac.app I turned on only passive mode and scanned. My system specs are: Apple ibookG4 10.4.3 rev 2 (bug fixes include kextload, misc wireless bugfixes etc.) 640 megs of ram 800 mhz processor(yuck) 40 gig hard drive (20 for OsX 20 for VPC). Apple Airport "extreme" (broadcom [yuck]). I will repeat the exeriment and see how well it works, and let the list know what the resaults are. __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/