David I am an expert at not reading the manual correctly. Maybe you can benefit from my expertise. A few months ago I struggled with tones on an ICOM radio. After reading the manual one more time I discovered that I had to hold the tone button for at least 2 seconds to program them in the channel memory. It will be something simple that you missed, I am sure. 73's Herman VA3QX ----- Original Message ----- From: ve3dze@xxxxxxxxx To: KARC Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:56 AM Subject: [karc] th 22at help I am trying to add tones 151.5 for the new (not yet installed FC ARES )repeater I have the manual and I am doing all the steps but it is not doing it ( I installed tones for the .940 machine ) I know I am doing something wrong but what? if anyone has a Kenwood handheld th22at could you give me a ring. VE3DZE 613-547-6714 I could use your expertise thanks David