If people have had problems logging into their RAC account, or have forgotten their password and requested a new one, the RAC system has a built-in "gotcha". Their system sends you an automatic one-line message like this: Your password is reset1234561234 Like a fool, I assumed that my new password was "1234561234". Not so, it was "reset1234561234". The person who designed that system is a real poster-child for how not to write user-friendly software. Amazingly, when I told the RAC webmaster that I had trouble logging in, I got an almost immediate reply with a 8 digit/letter password that worked fine. He explained that "reset" was part of the automatic password system. I suggested he change that system, so if you try it now, I'm not sure what you will get. ... Phil VE3HST __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/