[JA] Re: does Juno have spam blocks?
- From: thepccat@xxxxxxxx
- To: juno_accmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 09:02:40 -0700
On Mon, 1 Oct 2001 07:30:07 -0400 Leslie S Gottlieb
<lesliepearson@xxxxxxxx> writes:
> Juno 5 has a tool that can be used to block spam - the mail assistant
> which allows movement of individual messages to filters or to even
> delete
> them based on "rules" the user sets up. But there is no preset spam
> filter.
Excellent. So there is at least one reason to upgrade to version 5 client
;-).
> Personally, I send a copy of all spam I get to abuse@xxxxxxxxx I do
> get
> really stupid responses back: ("Not our spam, but we've forwarded
> it" or
> "We know you hate pornographic spam, use the mail filtering") but I
> feel
> it helps Juno filter out REAL spam.
LOL. It seems that they spend time on this, so any suggestions from
the users on what is spam would be an aid.
> I still don't know how Tourbus became spam, but at least Juno wasn't
> as
> stupid as AOL who blocked all of yahoogroups list mail for several
> days
> when yahoo changed the IP address it was sent from.
>
> Leslie Gottlieb
Comparing the stupidity of Juno with AOL is "like the pot calling the
kettle
black." They both use rule based filters to do the spam blocking. In each
case desired email group address(es) got caught in one of their rules
until "someone
in a position to take effective action" changed the situation. In AOL's
case,
it was a massive part of their own content which was blocked, so they
took
action in a few days. In Juno's, it was one ezine loved by perhaps
hundreds
or thousands on Juno email -- this took weeks to be noticed, a letter
from a frustrated user to the author of the ezine, then a letter from the
ezine author [who had a hard time finding someone besides
a computer to talk to :-) ], and several more days to rewrite the rule!
Speaking of spam filters, I had a problem with one ISP [to be unnamed],
which had a rule that all BCC submissions were spam. I wrote to each
person who used this ISP, begging them to change the permission to
allow emails from one individual, me. They were somehow unable to
comply, who knows whether because of inability, ignorance, or
disinclination?
So I had to email them out in the open with CC. After several months, I
tested their addresses again with BCC, and the email went right through.
Rule based filters cannot be better than the rules, which are entered by
humans. I subscribed to a free POP3 email service [again unnamed] which
has a built-in spam filter [cannot turn off]. But I could set a rule to
override
it similar to: "if the subject does not contain <vbrlgsuy> send the email
on
rather than blocking." Hopefully, that will get me most of my mail, even
if the provider, in his/her humble opinion, thinks it's spam :-).
> lesliepearson@xxxxxxxx
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