[here is some discussion, hope for more comment and info from those who use Juno as Web access -thepccat] On Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:23:20 -0800, "George Lunt" <glunt@xxxxxxxx>, Subject: [JA] Re: no incoming mail, wrote in part: "Free-riders are still a valuable pool of potential Platinum accounts. Free-riders have been reduced by roughly 40% since the merger with NetZero, down from a combined membership with NetZero of about 7.5 million to 4.5 million. This number still gives United Online credibility and clout as a "top" provider." Thanks for the info, and may the free rider syndrome long continue, I know I have milked it for over six years now, aside from the continuing SPAM filter SNAFU's it has been great email, and there continue to be some for whom a free email service usable with dialup and archaic computers [down to Win 3.1/386/?MB_RAM] is vital. I have something to report about the Juno Web connection, which I have seldom used because it always fails "to initialize" and the software asks me to reinstall the software. The problem in my case may be in the ad portion of the software. Every so once in awhile I clear out the ads folder, except for the logs folder and addb.frm file. Just on a whim I then decided to try and connect to Juno Web, and the doggone thing went right through and continued without a hitch! I was surfing by Juno, adding 20-30 minutes onto my 10 hour allotment! On the one hand, the throughput [during this short trial] was actually quite good [~5K/sec with an almost 50k connection]. On the other there was an initial blizzard of ads pop-ing up, which Google popup stopper did nothing to kill. They stay as open windows unless killed manually. On the third, if I was to close the IE window the system would warn me I was to disconnect in XX seconds, and I would have to cancel that. It also seemed after awhile, this "we are going to close" would occur for no particular reason. What is user experience with Juno Web access? Can you simply set some resumable downloader to operate and go away for several hours without Juno disconnecting, or the proliferation of windows from ads dragging the system down? Are there ways to modify this experience for user benefit? I was able to successfully block Juno from acting as server using ZoneAlarm--it accesses the Web and seems to work OK without being a server [what the heck would that be used for?]. I have become used to the "real ISP" experience, where there are no ad windows, and it runs until it quits, sometimes as much as 12 hours, sometimes much less [by the way, if you experience connection becoming sluggish or quitting often, *first* try rebooting, particularly if you have Win 9X/ME (regardless of how much RAM you have)]. How does the Juno web compare to this? I assume the Platinum service would be about the same only less so--is that correct? Even with the percieved limitations, being able to use Juno web could come in handy when the other ISP is on the ropes or down for the count. thepccat To unsubscribe, send a message to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe juno_accmail" in the body or subject. OR visit //freelists.org ~*~