[jsonar] Re: Some question about editing and mastering

  • From: Chris Belle <chrisb1963@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jsonar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:41:10 -0600

Some vst's don't have bypass functions, so this method isn't always reliable.
One of the guys who used to help program for JSonar is now working on reaper.
There are many things which are easier to do in reaper, not all things, but fx routing, and getting at the automatible parms is much easier.
move fx up and down in a chain, track folders and the like.
I use sonar still, but reaper is a great addition to the tool kit.


On 2/15/2017 12:42 AM, Yamuna Jivana dasa wrote:

Hi Guys,
Regarding bypassing an individual effect, one way you can also do it more easily is to open that effect’s interface window from the effects bin, then bypassing it from the interface window itself. In most HSC sets, they tend to use Alt-Shift-B for bypassing the effect, but you can check that using HSC’s Control-Alt-Shift-F1 to look at the specific hotkeys that were given for that HSC set.
Unfortunately most of the great guys who programmed HSC, JSonar and all of our nice accessibility stuff for Windows, have now moved over to the Mac, so we are stranded in terms of continuity.
So I guess most of us here in Windows are mainly just blind musician hobbiests in our old-age!
Even I am slowly letting go of this interest in life also, trying to dedicate my old-age to spiritual life more intensely.
After all nobody escapes death. Have you guys seen the video of this woman who was blind from birth? She had a car accident and was revived by doctors after her heart stopped. At that time she had remembrance of an outer-body experience, when her soul was “looking” down at her body on the operating theater. She could see for the first time, outside her body, and she even tries to describe colours, but she did not know they were colours but she called them “shades of light” in an attempt to explain it to the interviewer!
Very interesting. Her name is Vicki Noratuk, you can google her, and I have the video I can send if you contact me off-line.
Kind regards,
Yamuna
*From:* Dang Manh Cuong <mailto:dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:26 AM
*To:* jsonar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jsonar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [jsonar] Re: Some question about editing and mastering
Thanks for your answers.
Cuong
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    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Yamuna Jivana dasa <mailto:ykhandoo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    *To:* jsonar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jsonar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:56 AM
    *Subject:* [jsonar] Re: Some question about editing and mastering
    > are there any tips to move a track to the specify position in a
    project? ...
    I must move track 10 to the position of track 50. The only way I
    know is press back slash for moving down, and shift back slash for
    moving up. In my case, this will take a lot of time, so I need an
    advise for working faster. >
    Personally I do not know another way.  Even if you try using Jaws
    Drag-and-drop feature it is impossible if the tracks are far apart
    and not on the screen at the same time.  So the method you
    mentioned using backslash and shift-backslash is the only way from
    my knowledge.  I agree, it takes a lot of time but that’s life I
    guess being blind sometimes!

    > Are track folders accessible for blind user using Jaws and JSonar?
    No, from my knowledge track folders are not at all accessible
    using Jsonar.  They have not been scripted for in JSonar.  Dancing
    Dots have their own Jaws scripts called CakeTalking, but I’m not
    sure what is the price. It is a paid set of scripts tied to a
    particular Jaws serial number.  how expensive this package is, and
which versions of Sonar they will work with I do not know. Someone told me those scripts allow using Track Folders in Sonar,
    but I’m not sure. It is too expensive for me to afford.
    It will be very good if we can use track folders, because I think
    sighted people can mute or solo a whole track folder at once if
    they want to!
    > How can I bypass effect of a track but all for testing?
    You can easily bypass a whole effects bin of a track by using the
context menu key on the effects bin and choosing bypass bin. However, this bypasses all the effects on that bin.
    If you have multiple effects on an effects bin and you want to
    bypass just one of them, it is very difficult.  There has not been
    scripting done for that in JSonar.  How I do it is as follows:
    I first maximize the track strip.  Then I go to the effects bin
    without moving away onto another track and back to it, otherwise
    it may not stay fully visible on the screen.  Then I route Jaws
    cursor to PC cursor, and arrow around until I find the name of
    that effect I want to disable.  I then get to the beginning of the
    name with Jaws cursor and press Alt-Shift-Left arrow 3 times.  At
    this point HSC beeps the colour change and reports the colour is
    green under the mouse pointer, meaning the effect is active. Now I
    left-click on it, and it gets disabled.  I think the colour then
    changes to grey, and you can use Alt-Shift-right then back to
    alt-shift-left arrow to check that.  Clicking again enables it.
    Well, as I said it is quite difficult and the only way around this
    is sighted help unfortunately.

    > Can I use parameters of an effect such as reverb in a track for
    other track. I mean I want to apply same effect with same
    parameter for more than one track.
    You have to use a bus from the bus pane (get there with Shift-Down
arrow). Press Control Context key and choose Insert Stereo bus. Go to the effects bin of that bus, add the effects you want for
    all those tracks on that bus to its effects bin.  Now go back to
    Track view with Shift Up arrow.  Route the outputs of the tracks
    to that bus.  At this point the tracks whose outputs you route to
    the bus will all share its effects.  You can then go back to the
    effect on the bus effects bin and modify it as you desire.  Most
    Sonitus effects have HSC sets written for them.
    If you want to mix the output of the track with an effect such as
    a reverb, so that the track plays the dry signal and the reverb
    plays the effect tail, then you have to insert a send to that bus
    from the track.  You do this by getting to the track or bus name,
    press control-context key, and choosing Insert Send, then choosing
    the bus that carries the effect such as the reverb in its effects bin.
    Hope this helps.
    Yamuna



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