[jhb] Re: Mode S data
- From: "John Woodside" <fossil@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 18:13:23 -0000
One step forward...
John
fossil@xxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Gerry Winskill
Sent: 26 May 2013 18:03
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Mode S data
Right, now just got a much better UK coastal outline displayed.
Gerry Winskill
On 26/05/2013 17:24, John Woodside wrote:
> The only coastline included in PP is for Europe and you can see it is minute
> in the global view. Zoom in as best you can and press the Outline button to
> refresh it. Repeat this to isolate the UK.
>
> For me the scroll wheel zooms the wrong way but you can reverse that in the
> settings menu.
>
> John
>
> fossil@xxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
> Sent: 26 May 2013 16:18
> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jhb] Re: Mode S data
>
> When I press Outline View the first time then I get the attached.
>
> When I press it the second I get a message to press the green Process Button.
> When I do that I get that error message.
>
> Gerry Winskill
>
>
>
> On 26/05/2013 17:03, John Woodside wrote:
>> Chart view is meant for your own charts - the supplied world one is just a
>> placeholder.
>>
>> Switch to Outline View, zoom in and press the Outline View button again to
>> update the vector data. The vector plot doesn't automatically refresh on
>> zoom because that uses a huge amount of CPU.
>>
>> John
>>
>> fossil@xxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
>> Sent: 26 May 2013 15:52
>> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jhb] Re: Mode S data
>>
>> No aircraft in the list.
>>
>> Any idea why the display is so primitive? If I opt for ground map, and I
>> can't recall how I did it, then it's just as blocky when I zoom in.
>>
>> Gerry Winskill
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26/05/2013 16:46, John Woodside wrote:
>>> In RTL1090 do you see a lot of data scrolling down?
>>> If you click the List button does it show any aircraft?
>>>
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> fossil@xxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
>>> Sent: 26 May 2013 15:34
>>> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jhb] Re: Mode S data
>>>
>>> Now installed. Just two problems. It looks like the attached and the skies
>>> are bare of aircraft!
>>>
>>> Otherwise it's OK.
>>>
>>> Gerry Winskill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26/05/2013 12:09, Gerry Winskill wrote:
>>>> I've got two out of the three but no luck in attempts to download
>>>> the
>>>> RTL1090 zip file.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry Winskill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25/05/2013 19:44, John Woodside wrote:
>>>>> No Gerry.
>>>>>
>>>>> The RTL1090 program is purely a signal decoder. I say purely but
>>>>> it's a damn good one and decodes far more data than Kinetic does.
>>>>> However it isn't a screen display - it just provides a list of aircraft
>>>>> received.
>>>>>
>>>>> To view aircraft you have two options. You can use Planeplotter or
>>>>> Virtual Radar Server. Planeplotter has a radar type screen whilst
>>>>> VRS acts as a shunt to port the data into your browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> fossil@xxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
>>>>> Sent: 25 May 2013 16:23
>>>>> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [jhb] Re: Mode S data
>>>>>
>>>>> Engaged brain. VirtualRadar is PlanePlotter?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure what the other one is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone point me at the Zadig drivers site, for XP?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gerry Winskill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25/05/2013 16:59, Gerry Winskill wrote:
>>>>>> I've got two downloads. One is Setup and the other VirtualRadar.
>>>>>> I think the Setup is the Zadec download for XP. I'm in luck, the
>>>>>> cable is just long enough to reach the windowledge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerry Winskill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25/05/2013 14:41, John Woodside wrote:
>>>>>>> Mine has come too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The aerial cable is too short to plug it into my main PC so I
>>>>>>> will have to change thoughts and plug it into the Zotac. That
>>>>>>> way I can get the aerial in the window..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Zotac runs my SBS-1 too so I hope Andy's RTL1090 program can
>>>>>>> differentiate between receivers. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First step is to grab and install the Zadig drivers..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gerry - I understand there are XP drivers as well as the 32bit
>>>>>>> and 64bit drivers. For all users, regardless of your OS, the 64
>>>>>>> bit drivers MUST NOT be installed..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fossil@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
>>>>>>> Sent: 25 May 2013 12:40
>>>>>>> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: [jhb] Re: Mode S data
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Eagle, sorry Dongle, has landed!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First step to take it out of the package and screw the antenna
>>>>>>> together.
>>>>>>> No paper instructions so I'm already into hostile and ignorant
>>>>>>> territory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gerry Winskill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 24/05/2013 18:01, John Woodside wrote:
>>>>>>>> Great. And I have updated the text file with all known Mil splits.
>>>>>>>> Sorry – I know you have to change the paths again..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Although the Manx aircraft can be separated the Dutch and
>>>>>>>> French aren’t so obliging with their territories. Aruba
>>>>>>>> aircraft are mingled in with the other hex codes and will show
>>>>>>>> a Netherlands flag. The same goes for any Polynesian aircraft
>>>>>>>> which will come up under the French flag. A separate line for
>>>>>>>> each aircraft would cure this but the text file would then get
>>>>>>>> exceptionally long..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are far from getting data from all countries and it will be
>>>>>>>> some time before this data file is anywhere near complete. I’m
>>>>>>>> puzzled why the Chinese won’t tell us their military block
>>>>>>>> allocation.. Lol..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your garden is lower so you may get reduced coverage. Is there
>>>>>>>> an open hill nearby? ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> fossil@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Brook
>>>>>>>> Sent: 24 May 2013 16:40
>>>>>>>> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: [jhb] Re: Mode S data
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks John, it is working well:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m going to try out the kit on a netbook which, if successful
>>>>>>>> and with the promised fine weather over the weekend, will
>>>>>>>> allow me to test it out whilst sitting in the garden watching
>>>>>>>> Management doing the weeding…
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Fat chance… <g>)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> MikeB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Woodside
>>>>>>>> Sent: 24 May 2013 16:54
>>>>>>>> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: [jhb] Re: Mode S data
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK. Go to the PP’s BMPFlags folder and delete anything in there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Replace with my included bmps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Open the text file in Notepad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Change the path shown to match the BMPFlags folder on your PC.
>>>>>>>> A simple Find and replace should do the lot in one go.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Drop the text file into the root PP folder.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Go into Options, Flags, Define Country Flags and select my new
>>>>>>>> bonesflags file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The default txt file only shows the basic country flags. It
>>>>>>>> doesn’t split up each countries allocation into military and
>>>>>>>> offshore territories groups. So Manx aircraft would appear with
>>>>>>>> a UK flag. We extended this coverage a long time ago to display
>>>>>>>> all variations if this can be done. It varies because some
>>>>>>>> countries allocate specific military blocks (which is good for
>>>>>>>> us) and some just mingle mil aircraft randomly in their
>>>>>>>> allocation Not so good – Ireland being an example).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the file I sent you I have only separated out the Manx and
>>>>>>>> UK Mil groups. I will go back to my SBS list and convert it so
>>>>>>>> it shows all country splits and send an update later.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> fossil@xxxxxxx
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