Mark, I see. Sorry, but I can't help, I guess. I've never encountered the same frustration you're describing. Good luck. Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark" <mfurn@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 12:01 PM Subject: RE: title bar jaws verses PC Well, if I have the pc cursor on and hit insert plus t, it just says = the top line of a program. If I turn on the jaws cursor, and hit insert t = it says the top line plus a portion 2 lines below. It is the small portion below that I'm trying to get Jaws to automatically speak when ever it changes. But, jaws will not recognize that area, when it is designated = as a frame. However, I can get some other area of the window to trigger jaws = into reading the frame, but it keeps on repeating the desired frame. It is = feast or famine. Mark -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 2:45 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: title bar jaws verses PC Hi, I'm not sure I understand the question. What do you mean by "what the = PC=20 says?" Daniel uestiwon. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "mark" <mfurn@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 11:42 AM Subject: title bar jaws verses PC When doing an insert t, the jaws cursor says more then the PC does. Does anyone have an explanation? Thank you for your help. Mark Have a Postage Stamp Mentality: Stick to one thing until you get there. -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=20 jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or = the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact = the=20 list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or = the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact = the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx