Hi there: one of the other problems I am having is that if I log out and log back in again jaws will not read the system tray at all I have found the only way to correct this is to reload jaws. At times I also get the desktop menu of cut copy so forth. So for example if I click on an icon in the system tray and I get that menu I will go back to the system tray with insert f 11 again and use the right click button if I used and her or space the last time Lucia Greco Access Technology Specialist -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx