that's is right. but i want to be able to accomplish this by using the jaws curser ----- Original Message ----- From: Jouie To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:10 PM Subject: RE: minimise, maximize and close symbol You will know it by pressing Alt + Spacebar. I hope I got your, "question"? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ziad Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:40 PM To: jaws list Subject: minimise, maximize and close symbol hi friends, when i use jaws to see if a particular window is maximized etc, using jaws curser etc, i can only see the window name. any help is appreciated. thank you in advance