Hi Yardbird and all, thanks everyone who responded re the gibberish issue... I really don't like to make things overly difficult for people to read, and wanted to help out the best way I could, but if course if there was nothing to see... and I was surprised that in the year and a month that I've been on the list no one had commented on it before. and Yardbird as you may or may not have seen, I was referring to an e-mail that Alan Clendinen wrote regarding e-mails I send to the list, about how there is all this code in them and could I get rid of it. I didn't include the original message because I'm on digest mode so didn't want to include the whole digest again, as that takes up a lot of space and can be bothersome. hopefully this is resolved now! Patricia e-mail: bcsarah.fan@xxxxxxxxx msn: bc_sarah_fan@xxxxxxxxxxx