Chris, I took a break from the registration process at the point where I was supposed to accept the user agreements. The reason I didn't proceed right then was because I was a little burned out from wrestling with the audio verification stuff, and I didn't understand why the first thing on the page was a link for returning to some home page. They don't immediately say what you are supposed to do on each page (for instance, an error in filling out something shows up right at that point in the form, but there's no title like Error, Try Again at the top of the page, so a screen reader person has to hunt for the problem, if there is indeed a problemwatchful and , and I can't always infer what's the next thing to do. So I cycled around to Outlook express and looked at my email for a few minutes. Now, I came back, input my email address in an edit box beneath where the page displayed my email address (I have no idea what that was about), and clicked the I agree button. But what happened? Did I get a page saying Congratulations and welcome, and here's how to use this service? No. What I found myself on was the very "set up your credentials" page where I'd started, as if the whole transaction had been cancelled and now I had to begin all over again. But without their having the grace to actually tell me so. I searched up and down the page to see if it said something like "timed out, dummy. Start over." But there was no message of any kind, just the original invitation to enter an email address, a password, a secret question and answer, and then the verification graphic again. What's up with this? I'm not moving off that page now. If I'm just supposed to click (return to page x" or something, please tell me. Otherwise it looks as if the thing timed out while I was supposed to have been reading the agreements online or printing them and reading them,and that doesn't sound likely. Why wouldn't it wait a while on that page? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:58 AM Subject: Re: can't get started with Windows Messenger Dan, what you need to do is to go into your insert plus f11 system tray icon dialogue, and look for an icon that says, windows messenger not signed in. If you don't see the icon, then the program is closed so you'll need to go to your start menu, programs, and keep pressing w til you hear windows messenger and then press enter on that. However, if you find the icon in your system tray, press enter and a context menu will come up. press enter on the open option. Next, go to your file menu and press enter on the option that says, sign in as... and you'll then get a dialogue asking you for your .net messenger passport address, if you have one. Simply type in the e-mail address and password associated with your passport and you can then sign in. If you don't have a passport account, you can press shift plus tab in that dialogue a couple times and you'll find a link that sas, get a .net passport. press enter on that, and you can then sign up for one. you will have to eventually get to the word verification, but with luck you can get past that and you can then verify your e-mail address. you'll receive an e-mail that says that you need to click on a link that verifys your address. so when you sign in, you'll need to pick a screen name for yourself, possibly yardbird? You can pretty much choose anything you like, so go ahead and do that. you should then be all signed in, and if you know someone else who uses msn/windows messenger, you can start adding people to your contact list and when they see you've requested to add them, they'll add you back. You can then start a chat with tem by pressing enter on their screen name in the list of contacts. Hope this is helpful. At 07:33 AM 3/8/2006, you wrote: >I'm using current version Jaws 7, and the copy of Windows Messenger that >was >on this Dell when I bought it a year ago. I can't launch the program, >apparently, so I can't check for its version number. Sorry. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "curmudgeon" <one2three4five6@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:05 AM >Subject: Re: can't get started with Windows Messenger > > >which version of jaws and msn messenger are you using?? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:59 PM >Subject: can't get started with Windows Messenger > > >I'm not able to begin learning to use this with Jaws. I click on the >program icon to launch it. Then I get something that tells me it's the log >on window and asks me to sign in. But I don't hear "edit" or anything, and >I can't tab around or find any more of a dialogue. So I just hit Enter >(actually, that didn't do anything so I did that route to Jaws cursor thing >that sometimes behaves like a left mouse click, and the log on window >disappeared and the system tray came up, with the message Windows Messenger >Not Signed In. I pressed Enter on that, and got presented once again with >that inscrutable log on window. > >What's happening? How do I set this baby up and activate it? > >Thanks. > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.0/275 - Release Date: 3/6/2006 > >-- >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. >Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or >the >way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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