This is why I do not remove older versions of jaws. On this machine I have every version from 4.51 to version 9. You just can't trust them. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave 'SqueezeBox' Carlson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: a JAWS bug in Excel Bob, I'm both surprised and not surprised. First I never knew about this capability before you mentioned it and it sure would have made my life easier if I'd known. However in retrospect I was better off not knowing about it. I gave it a test run with the Carson instructions and it's a nice feature and sure does make it easier for sighted users to nest equations. One more reason why I'm sorry I removed my JAWS 7 and ran with JAWS 8 and now JAWS 9. I've even paid for my next SMA, just to show how much I'm hoping that they will eventually come up with a version that brings more capability with fewer changes to original functionality. I have a couple issues with them also with Excel, one of which is that JAWS 9 seems to forget which JSI file is supposed to be in control when I have more than one spreadsheet open. It's been escalated to their support team. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Verity To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:54 AM Subject: Re: a JAWS bug in Excel Just heard back from Freedom Scientific about this complaint, see below. John Carsen from their escalations department said that is not broken but they changed the way it works. Well, from a user's standpoint it is broken because you now cannot do something that you could easily before. Carsen says that now instead of hitting JAWS key plus 5 on the number row, you can route jaws to pc then jaws key 5 then PC cursor. His attitude was that's the way it is now get over it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Verity To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: a JAWS bug in Excel Starting with JFW 7.10, there has been a bug in JFW with Excel. When editing a formula that has nested functions, JFW does not report the color of the parenthesis correctly. Excel allows 7 levels of nested functions and the color of the parenthesis is different for each level. Starting with JFW 7.10 through JFW 9 it reports only black at all levels. This may not be important to most people but it is to me. They just can't update/upgrade without breaking something.