wow I tried that this morning, and the first updtate worked but the rest of the basic training files after that it said it could not update them From: Mike & Barbara in Arcadia Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 5:55 PM To: jfw list Subject: Jaws 12.0.525 update available Hi All; Below are the direct download links for the J12.0.525 update. Click on the link appropriate for your operating system. For 32 bit systems: ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/J12.0.525-32bit.exe For 64 bit systems: ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/J12.0.525-64bit.exe For USB drives: http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-MAGic-usb-drive.asp#download Hope this helps. Take care. Mike