RE: JFW 8 cutting off beginnings of words under Vista
- From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:32:42 -0500
Hi Ron,
I can't find Jack's original post to reply to.
Since I see it's jaws 8, it's not covered by the TSB and Vista that I
mentioned separately; that, they said, was only a jfw 9 issue, and they
said jfw 8 eloquence would work fine under Vista, just slower.
I think both of you are seeing an issue from the Centrino chip (only
used on some laptops) trying to conserve power. Many of the sound
drivers written for it turn the sound card off, when running under
battery, when it's not making sound.
Eloquence is using the sound card one word at a time, so it's being
turned off between words.
One way to work around this is to go to your power scheme list and
choose one for maximum performance rather than one that's meant to
conserve power/battery life. I think that's why you noticed the problem
went away when the laptop was on a/c.
You could try and find later sound drivers; many times I've heard
they've rewritten them so as not to turn off the sound card quite so
frequently.
The other thing to do is to try jfw 9 to see if eloquence 9 now leaves
the sound card turned on between words. If it does not, get on the
phone, don't use email, and get them to escalate the issue so that
eloquence gets modified. Once you can show them it does not happen on
a/c, they can then see it's probably related to a power scheme issue,
and can verify what I'm telling you.
We've discussed this on the list almost as soon as the Centrino came out
many years ago, so FS has no excuse here.
hth,
Chip
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Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314
(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron McEwan
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:44 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: JFW 8 cutting off beginnings of words under Vista
>
> I did have this issue with my new hp laptop for work.
>
> I called FS tech support with the usual no help response.
>
> I think, long time ago now, that I fixed the issue by
> changing synths to a
> different ver of eloquence.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Jack Chen
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:24 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: JFW 8 cutting off beginnings of words under Vista
>
> I have a Thinkpad X61 running Vista home basic. I am also
> using the latest
> revision of JFW 8. The beginnings of all of the beginnings
> of Jaws speech
> are cut off, and there is a click. Has anyone else experienced this?
>
> For example, instead of saying star, star, star when typing my log in
> password, it will say tar, tar, tar.
> Sometimes when the computer is plugged into the power, the
> problem goes
> away. If I run Windows Media Player and pause the audio, then the
> beginnings of the Jaws speech are not cut off unless I don't
> hit a key for
> about 3 seconds. Then the beginning will get cut off again.
>
> jack
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jim grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:15 PM
> Subject: RE: vista, double speaking?
>
>
> > Nope sorry I cannot reproduce this vista is working like a
> dream on all of
> > my boxes.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of J. Black
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:55 AM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: vista, double speaking?
> >
> >
> > When I go into say, task manager, to check my cpu meter,
> which I found by
> > the way, can be aded to gadgits, jaws double speaks, as if
> there is a
> > secondary voice that starts when you enter into this area. It also
> > happened
> > in one other area which I now had forgotten. Has anyone
> experienced jaws
> > speaking as if two voices are set to talk?
> >
> > thans,
> >
> > Julian
> >
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