Re: JAWS spelling

  • From: "Adrian Spratt" <A.Spratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:59:15 -0500

Hi, Flor and Vicki.

I didn't want to extend this thread unhelpfully, but your latest message, Flor, 
encourages me to report an experience of mine, just in case it bears on the 
issue after all.

I have my laptop set to work with JAWS with the desktop keyboard setting and 
have extended the laptop keyboard by adding a USB numpad.  JAWS works as it is 
supposed to with that numpad except that it doesn't speak at all when I press 
numpad 5 with numlock off.  For example, it won't read a character, never mind 
give a phonetic representation.

Vicki, I recall early in this thread that you said earlier versions of JAWS 
operated fine on her numpad, so on the face of it my experience isn't relevant. 
 Still, maybe there is a numpad function problem only tangentially related to 
JAWS, or this version of it.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Flor Lynch 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:09 AM
  Subject: Re: JAWS spelling 


  Do you mean, it is silent whenever you press it, that JAWS does nothing?  (If 
you press it once, it should say the current character.  What about other
  keys on this numpad when the numlock is off?  Do they all work as they should 
with JAWS?  (Does numpad5 do anything if you're in insert+1 JAWS Help?) 
  Try another numpad.   

  We were, I reckon now, barking up the wrong tree altogether with the phonetic 
spelling issue for this problem, interesting in its way though that was. 
  (In that regard, however, it might have helped  - and it would help in JAWS 
if FS did this - to define terms if we'd spoken of phonetic pronunciation rather
  than phonetic spelling!)   

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Vicki Wherry 
  To: 
  jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 3:14 AM
  Subject: Re: jaws spelling
  It doesn't matter how many times I press the key. Nothing happens. I'm using 
my laptop right now with a USB external numpad. I have it set to desktop 
keyboard
  layout, and I've never had this problem before. I'm trying to locate another 
numpad just to make sure it's not my numpad. The number 5 seems to work when
  I use it as a numpad for number entries, though.  

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Flor Lynch 
  To: 
  jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:52 PM
  Subject: Re: jaws spelling
  It seems a repair of JAWS might be the option.  When you hit numpad5 twice 
quickly, is it the same as if you hit it just once?  If you hit it three times,
  you should be getting the ANSI character number.  Are you using a standard 
Windows keyboard?  If not, there's further room for querying.   

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Vicki Wherry 
  To: 
  jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:24 PM
  Subject: Re: jaws spelling
  Judith, actually, I don't think you blundered at all. I just wanted to use 
the term that Freedom Scientific used so that people would know what I was 
talking
  about. So far no one has been able to figure it out. 
  Vicki

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Judith Bron 
  To: 
  jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 2:05 PM
  Subject: Re: jaws spelling
  I guess that everything has been redefined, sorry for the blunder.  Judith

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Vicki Wherry 
  To: 
  jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:54 PM
  Subject: Re: jaws spelling
  The term used is spelling Phonetically. Below is the direct command from the 
JAWS help: 
  Say Character Phonetically 
  NUM PAD 5 twice quickly   

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Judith Bron 
  To: 
  jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:37 PM
  Subject: Re: jaws spelling
  I don't know what this way is referred to but it is not phonetic.  This is 
using alternate words to spell out a word so that the user knows which letter
  is which by means of using unrelated words for each letter.  For example the 
word many:
  mary, apple, nancy, yesterday 
  I wish I knew what this way of spelling was but I don't.  Judith

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Vicki Wherry 
  To: 
  jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:30 PM
  Subject: Re: jaws spelling
  Here is an example. I want JAWS to spell  the word wade phonetically. It 
would spell it whiskey alpha delta echo. And BTW, just spelling the word with 
insert
  numpad 5 doesn't work either. 
  Vicki 

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Yardbird 
  To: 
  jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:31 PM
  Subject: Re: jaws spelling 
  Vicki, 
  Are you sure you mean phonetically?  Don't you just mean spelling things out, 
character by character?  Because if you really are talking about having things
  spelled phonetically for you, there's a way to set that in the Configuration 
manager, and someone else here can probably direct you where to find that
  specific setting. 
  but if you just mean the default way that Jaws spells out a word when you 
press Insert 5 as you describe, Insert 5,5, then that isn't phonetic. 
  Just to get straight what it is that you're after.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Vicki Wherry 
  To: 
  JFW List 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:03 AM
  Subject: jaws spelling 
  I'm using JAWS 7.1, and for some reason, I can't get it to spell 
  phonetically in any application. I'm pressing numpad 5 twice quickly like I 
  always did, and it won't work in any program. Is there a setting I need to 
  change? 

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