Gene, I think what you're recalling was a discussion on MS Visio; part of some forms of MS Office. It's used for diagrams of all sorts, but as it stands right now, it's completely inaccessible to all screen readers. I wrote a small program in it's macro language VBA, which ran through all the objects on the current page, and displayed all the textual info about each that was available (it's title, what ever text had been typed inside, etc.). There's also information in the programming model detailing how objects are linked to one another. I did this only to show it would be possible for someone to write a new interface to overlay onto visio that would make it accessible, at least for reviewing documents others had done. As for being able to create such documents, well, such a program would have to be much more complex to allow you to edit visio documents, but it too could be done. These programs could be done as VBA macros so that they would work with any screen reader, or, using window eyes new macro scripting capability it could be made part of the screen reader itself. This though hasn't been done by anyone that I know of, so unless you're an ambitious programmer, it's still not accessible. Just an fyi, MS Word has a lot of the same object shapes and the same programming model, so I'd imagine a lot of these types of diagrams could also be done in Word, and you'd have the advantage of being able to mix them in with documentation. hth, Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) ________________________________ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 5:39 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: JAWS and diagrams Hi, I think I remember some folks talking on the list about JAWS and a program for, I think, creating diagrams. Would someone please tell me a little more along this line? Or, if I misunderstood? I've looked at some jobs which required understanding blueprints and/or diagrams. Any information is greatly appreciated.