Re: JAWS System Dump File from Insert+Windows+F4, Where to find it
- From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:17:33 -0800
MessageHi All;
The following are for XP users. To find the Jaws memory dump file, do the
following:
1. Go to the desktop & press enter on My Computer.
2. Highlight Local disk C, & press enter.
3. Find Documents & Settings & press enter.
4. Press enter your name folder or the All Users folder.
5. Spacebar the applications folder & press enter.
6. Arrow down to the Freedom Scientific folder & press enter.
7. Press spacebar & enter on Jaws.
8. Arrow to the version of Jaws you are wanting to get the memory dump info
for & press enter.
9. Spacebar & enter on settings.
10. Arrow to or, look for, JAWSMemDmp. This is where the files are stored
whenever you invoke the keystroke, Insert / Jaws key, Windows key, + F4.
Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike
I know the steps are long winded but, once you do them they won't seem so
bad.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS System Dump File from Insert+Windows+F4
You might want to have the option for the beep able to be disabled,
though, as you might not want the beep interfering with other sounds you may
be recording, etc.
Bill White billwhite92701@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Smart Eze
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS System Dump File from Insert+Windows+F4
OK then. We all see it right.
In many instances, having both the percentage indicator and the beep can
never be too much for orientation as to what the computer is doing
presently.
Regards, smart
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 15 February 2011 17:37
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: JAWS System Dump File from Insert+Windows+F4
I may also be missing the point, but here's how I see it. The
percentage indicator is very helpful. But when I go through the JAWS
installation process or, to take a parallel example, the transfer of books
to my victor Stream, beeps give me some assurance that the process is
continuing and that patience will be rewarded.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:20 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS System Dump File from Insert+Windows+F4
Smart,
"Or, am I missing the point here?"
No, everyone has a different opinion, and your perspective is just as
valid.
Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: Smart Eze
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 06:40
Subject: RE: JAWS System Dump File from Insert+Windows+F4
But JAWS saying the percentages of the progress bar has been
extremely helpfful to arithmetically know how much work has been done by the
computer, and how much is still remaining.
I am not so sure that the beeps can provide this kind of
information.
Or, am I missing the point here?
Regards, smart
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: 15 February 2011 15:16
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS System Dump File from Insert+Windows+F4
Daniel,
Good suggestion about a beep instead of number on the progress
bar. Send that to suggestions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and don't hold your
breath for a quick resolution.
As to the keystroke, yes it's even harder on a keyboard that has
split sections like the Microsoft Natural. But only used once in a while. It
doesn't tell you anything, but it shuts down JAWS faster than any other
command so you can try to launch it within a few seconds of performing those
acrobatics.
As to having an audible sound when using that command, again send
your idea (I suggest separate messages) to suggestions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my
Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel McGee
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:34
Subject: Re: JAWS System Dump File from Insert+Windows+F4
Hello Dave, Tom and Peter. Many Thanks for your comments. As
long as I know that it doesn't take up too much space I will just continue
to use Jaws as normal. WOW I must admit its a pritty cool keystroke though
on the down side it does require some acrobatics. LOL I can do it no prob
but what about thoughs who don't have that flexibility?Ah well I guess its
not a keystroke that one is awear of. I mean I wasn't until today! I might
give it a try when my computer freezes up again and see what happens. Idealy
what do people think about some kind of sound letting one know that when you
have done the action you know its done because you hear the sound. I mean if
that's what it's for to "kill Jaws" then you might as well know because if
the computer is in a state of being frozen then I know it sounds stupid and
to me pritty obvious, but how else is a blind user going to tell that jaws
is no longer running. If not by speach then by a sound if you follow my
meaning.
What do you all think. Also I would like the idea of in a new
future version of Jaws to have the abilty to beap progress bars rather then
having them spoken all the time. Again what do you all think? Probably you
all might think I'm crazy but I personally like the ideas myself.
Thanks
Daniel
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 8:10 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS System Dump File from Insert+Windows+F4
I'm sure they'll ask if they want them anyway and give
instructions on how to get them.
Peter
From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:49 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: JAWS System Dump File from Insert+Windows+F4
Daniel,
I sure don't remember, but someone on this list does know where
it gets created. No, it doesn't take much disc space at all, and I think
each iteration overwrites the previous.
Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my
Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel McGee
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 11:29
Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about a
JAVA update
Hello Dave, not sure if you got my previous message so I will
write again in case it got lost in the conversation or if anyone else can
answer then please do.
When Dave was talking about the function to Kill Jaws, Jaws
key, Windows and F4 you mentioned it creates a file that if sent to FS it
can help with them in figureing out the problem that was happening on the
computer at the present time when it wasn't behaving correctly. Well my
question is: where can this fouldor be located if ever I wanted to send the
file to FS? Also adding to that I know one wouldn't do the command unless
they really have to but I was just also wondering do the files take up a lot
of memory i.e. Hard dics space and finally Is it safe to delete if they
built up over time? Would deleting them effect Jaws in anyway?
Look forward to hearing from you or anyone else in ansering my
questions.
Many Thanks
Daniel
From: Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:08 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about a
JAVA update
MY pc at work is shut down every day. The fact I keep having a
problem with word crashing at the moment doesn't help. Every time it brings
up the not responding message jaws refuses to speak until I can get it off.
Unfortunately narrator won't come up either and as usual most of our IT
people don't have a clue about access technologies.
Peter
From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:40 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about a
JAVA update
Peter,
Happens to me about once a day, as well, and that's here at
work. Still waiting an extra 20 seconds for JAWS to settle down and then
reloading usually takes care of the problem, unless another application
(usually Outlook) is hung up. then I use Narrator to uncover the culprit and
close it down and then JAWS comes back up. Turn off Narrator and back to
work.
Don't often have to do a complete power-off shutdown, perhaps
once every three weeks.
Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my
Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Holdstock
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 08:01
Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about a
JAVA update
Tried all that Dave. It's all fine on my home PC with
Windows 7 but at work where we are running XP Pro sometimes I just lose it
all together. Very difficult with my job as I'm interviewing people most of
the day, need the computer, and because of the speed of the PC, network,
security bits and pieces your talking about five or six minutes at least to
get logged back on again, not to mention the work lost.
Peter
From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 2:57 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about a
JAVA update
Peter,
Wait 20 to 30 seconds after killing JAWS before attempting
to load again. It needs to "flush" from the system.
Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of
my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Holdstock
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 06:46
Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about
a JAVA update
Yeh works for me too. The difficulty then comes when JAWS
completely refuses to come back up again.
peter
From: Hamid Hamraz
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:44 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about
a JAVA update
When Jaws freezes, i.e. Jaws key + F4 does not quit, I try
the Jaws key + windows + F4 to force Jaws to exit. That usually works for
me.
----- Original Message -----
From: Yadiel Sotomayor
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message
about a JAVA update
?When my computer freezes I always go to the task
manager, processes and
press j for jfw and hit the aplication key. If I hear a
sound I press down
arrow and hit enter twice to close jaws. Usually it
works. However,
sometimes it doesn't. When that happens I usually wait
for at least 5
minutes. I know it is anoying having a song playing
while your computer is
locked up, but that usually means it is working and it
is not completely
frozen. Once thanks for not waiting I crashed so bad my
computer that I
needed to re instal windows.
Clean instal through and through. I lost everything
because at the time I
did not backup at all. I learned my leason that's for
sure.
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From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer"
<drichardd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 1:01 AM
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message
about a JAVA update
> Actually I had several programs running at
once--Firefox, Outlook Express,
> MSWord, Powerpoint, My Computer/Folder Options. At
one point I pressed
> Alt+Tab to changed the focus to another window and my
Focus braille
> display and Jaws locked up; the music I had playing in
Firefox continued
> playing. I tried closing each of my apps one by one
with alt+f4, Windows
> Task Manager, End Program (alt+e), shut down--but none
of those steps
> worked; the music kept playing and Jaws remained
silent, the Focus stayed
> on the same message. Finally I pressed and held the
power button till the
> music stopped and my computer shut off. When I
pressed Power again to
> reboot, my computer started a vicious cycle of trying
to Launch Windows,
> asking if I wanted to start in Safe or Normal Mode,
then stopping and
> going back to the beginning of the bootup process, and
the cycle just kept
> repeating--till I held Power to stop the computer.
With sighted
> assistance I located a message on the screen saying
Windows couldn't start
> successfully, and apologize for the inconvenience.
> The best solution is not having so many things running
at once, and if my
> screenreader freezes or goes to sleep, and none of the
graceful steps for
> shutting down works, call for sighted help. The
helper would be able to
> close or get things running with a mouse or by looking
at the screen for
> any dialogs that are invisible or inaudible to me.
Obviously Jaws or
> Windows got tied up in knots due to the overload or
multitude of running
> apps, and forcibly stopping the computer corrupted the
version of Windows
> and made it inoperable. I could have saved the day by
just being patient
> and getting help from whoever had the time.
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> Douglas Richard Dexheimer
> Chief of Braille Productions
> Born-Again Productions
> The Friedman Place, Apt.308
> 5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
> Chicago, IL 60625
> 773-409-6163
> drichardd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:41 PM
> Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message
about a JAVA update
>
>
>> You probably pressed that key during a critical part
of a disk drive
>> write
>> operation. No way to really know and all I can
suggest is that you listen
>> to
>> your hard drive and make sure that it's not
chattering when you press the
>> power button.
>>
>> Dave
>> Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general
vicinity of my Audio
>> Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer"
<drichardd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: "Paul Kushinger" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 17:21
>> Subject: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message
about a JAVA update
>>
>>
>> I too had to reinstall Windows on a new drive because
my former edition
>> of
>> XP got corrupted, due to pressing and holding the
power button on the
>> computer when my screenreader and braille display
froze. When I (via a
>> sighted techie) installed a new version of XP on a
new drive sent by my
>> brother, all my old files and programs were on the
old drive (which had
>> the
>> former version of XP) but not the new one; a clean
version of Windows
>> installed with the programs transferred from the old
drive, but none of
>> the
>> old documents, emails, web browser favorites, Winamp
bookmarks, etc. The
>> techie transferred all the files and programs from
the old drive to his
>> external thumb drive, then from the thumb drive to
this new drive, but
>> not
>> all of them got onto the new drive. Tonight he hopes
to reconnect this
>> old
>> drive so I can find those old files and migrate them
to the new drive.
>> Programs can't install from an old drive to a new;
they have to be
>> reinstalled or redownloaded from scratch.
>> Why would pressing the power when my screenreader
freezes, and nothing
>> else
>> I try works, corrupt Windows so it can't reboot
anymore?
>>
>> Douglas Richard Dexheimer
>> Chief of Braille Productions
>> Born-Again Productions
>> The Friedman Place, Apt.308
>> 5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
>> Chicago, IL 60625
>> 773-409-6163
>> drichardd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:00 AM
>> Subject: message about a JAVA update
>>
>>
>>> Hello Cy and Friends,
>>> Before I reinstalled Windows due to a corrupted
version of XP, and
>>> completely started over with a completely clean
System's Drive, I had
>>> this
>>> terrible problem all the time, even a couple times a
day, it was so
>>> terribly annoying.
>>>
>>> I must assume then, it is because some "Cookie" was
deleted when the new
>>> install occurred.
>>>
>>> I bet you are receiving this message because of some
"Cookie" that got
>>> onto your system.
>>>
>>> If you can find the "Cookie" that brings this
message into your system,
>>> and delete it, I am sure your problem will go away!
>>>
>>> With Best Regards,
>>> Alan
>>> Miami, Florida
>>> Alan Dicey, President
>>> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
>>> "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and
Do, Play Chess!"
>>> United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
>>> http://AmericanBlindChess.org
>>>
>>>
>>
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